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    Last time I posted intangibles we did well so lets see if we can spot some in this game.

    Tonights game between Miami and Pitt will probably have a strong chance for rain (70%) and the field is a mess with new sod having been placed.( Confirmed by 2 who live there)

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    Thirty-five years after they became the only unbeaten Super Bowl champions in NFL history, the Miami Dolphins are getting nervously close to a perfect record again.

    Perfectly awful, that is, with the zero as the first digit in their won-lost record. There would be no joyful popping of champagne bottles with this imperfect season, no favorable comparisons to Don Shula's long-celebrated 1972 team that began the season with no losses and ended it that way 17 games later.

    The Dolphins' 2007 line score: 10 games, a lot of close calls, but a zero in the wins column going into Monday night's game in Pittsburgh, where the Steelers (7-3) are 5-0 this season while outscoring their opponents 150-54.

    Only the 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (0-14) (I went to every home game that year- paid $5 to sit where I wanted to and watch Lee Roy Selmon and the opposing teams good players) have gone winless through an NFL season of 14 games or more. The expansion 1960 Dallas Cowboys (0-11-1) are the only other winless team of modern vintage.

    The Dolphins will be reminded of this repeatedly if they keep losing, with each loss piling on more pressure to win before they go down in NFL history for all the wrong reasons - a full-season equivalent of former Vikings lineman Jim Marshall's famous wrong-way run. Miami's start is the worst since the 2001 Lions were 0-12.

    If they didn't have enough to occupy them, the Dolphins also have these sideshows to deal with Monday night: running back Ricky Williams' possible first game action since 2005, and mouthy linebacker Joey Porter's return to Pittsburgh.

    'People are going to say what they want about us,' defensive end Jason Taylor said. 'They can say what they want. We're not playing real well. We're not winning any games right now, but I know what we're putting forward. I know what we're putting into it, and we'll get the results one day.'

    If they don't win Monday night - and they are 16-point underdogs - the Dolphins' best chance might come next Sunday against the Jets. After that, they finish against the Bills, Ravens, Patriots and Bengals, a stretch that includes several winnable games but no guarantees.

    Which is exactly what the Steelers learned last week during an improbable 19-16 overtime loss to the Jets, who went into the game 1-8. The Steelers looked flat, played sloppily and never found either a running game or a way to protect Ben Roethlisberger, who was sacked seven times.

    Playing successive games against teams that owned one win between them until a week ago appeared to be the closest thing possible to a two-week bye, but the best the Steelers can go now is 1-1.

    The Steelers will be without injured wide receiver Santonio Holmes (sprained ankle) and safety Troy Polamalu (sprained knee). Losing Holmes takes away Roethlisberger's best deep threat; losing Polamalu will alter defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau's blitz package against inexperienced quarterback John Beck.

    Beck played shakily in his first career start last week, going 9-of-22 for 109 yards in a 17-7 loss to Philadelphia. The blitz-reliant Steelers figure to come at him at every angle, something Porter no doubt has warned him to expect.

    'You see them creating plays on defense, creating turnovers and not giving up a lot of yardage,' Beck said.

    Porter, a three-time Pro Bowl linebacker and a member of the Steelers' 75th season all-time team, signed with Miami in March after being let go by Pittsburgh in a salary cap move. He hasn't been in a winning game in 11 months, but his former teammates don't expect that 0-10 record will quiet one of the NFL's most habitual trash talkers.

    'I hope he does (talk),' cornerback Bryant McFadden said. 'That adds some excitement and enthusiasm to the game.'

    So could Williams, who played in Canada last season following at least his fourth violation of the NFL's substance abuse policy. He practiced last week, but coach Cam Cameron isn't saying how much he will be used. (or how much use he will be)

    Dolphins running back Jesse Chatman averages 91.6 yards as a starter, but is questionable with a sore ankle. His injury may create the need for Williams to play only his 13th NFL game since 2003. (Oh WoW Dude- you mean Suit up?)

    When he last played, Williams gained 280 yards in his final two games in 2005, including 172 against Tennessee. Neither the Dolphins nor the Steelers are certain what Williams is capable of following so long a layoff. (Maybe a few flashbacks of him running after the man for more weed)

    'I'm not really anticipating anything,' Cameron said.

    The Dolphins lost in Pittsburgh 28-17 last season as backup Charlie Batch threw three touchdown passes. Pittsburgh has won 12 consecutive Monday night home games dating to 1991, including a 38-7 rout of Baltimore three weeks ago.
    "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

  • #2
    MIA are 4-12-2 ATS in their last 18 vs. AFC.
    MIA are 2-6-2 ATS in their last 10 games on grass.
    Over is 11-4 in MIA last 15 Mon. games.

    Pittsburgh: PIT are 1-7 ATS in their last 8 games in Week 12.
    Over is 38-13-2 in PIT last 53 home games
    "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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    • #3
      Pitt is such a good Over Bet at home. However, the field looks to be sloppy- desiring field position may be in order since the deep threat is not there for Pitt.
      "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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      • #4
        Under is 5-0 in Steelers last 5 games following a ATS loss.
        Over is 6-1-1 in Steelers last 8 home games vs. a team with a losing road record.
        Over is 6-1-1 in Steelers last 8 games after allowing less than 150 yards passing in their previous game.
        Under is 4-1 in Steelers last 5 games after allowing more than 150 yards rushing in their previous game.
        Under is 4-1 in Steelers last 5 vs. a team with a losing record.
        Over is 38-13-2 in Steelers last 53 home games.
        Over is 5-2 in Steelers last 7 games in November.
        "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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        • #5
          Miami
          Over is 4-0 in Dolphins last 4 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.
          Under is 4-1 in Dolphins last 5 games in November.
          Under is 6-2 in Dolphins last 8 games after accumulating less than 150 yards passing in their previous game.
          Over is 11-4 in Dolphins last 15 Monday games.
          Under is 5-2 in Dolphins last 7 games after allowing more than 350 total yards in their previous game.
          Over is 5-2 in Dolphins last 7 vs. AFC.
          "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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          • #6
            gl spearit----thanks for the stats


            Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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            • #7
              Fella the sod at Heinz Field went through a war zone playing 11 games in 6 days maybe 7. After the Pitt vs SFla game on Saturday they ripped up the surface and replaced it. They finished it Sunday night sometime. The surface is normally bad and I can't see putting in new turf in one day making it any better. It has been raining all day here in PGH and looks like it might not stop through the night. I believe the Under is the play. Just beware of what happened when PGH played Balt it should be similiar to worse conditions I believe tonight. My opinion is that this game is going to be low scoring.
              Best of Luck Everyone

              2012 Record:

              1 unit = $100


              ***All sides and totals -110 unless noted***

              ***Teasers are -120 & 7 Points on Sides and 5 Points on Totals ties push****

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pitt37
                Fella the sod at Heinz Field went through a war zone playing 11 games in 6 days maybe 7. After the Pitt vs SFla game on Saturday they ripped up the surface and replaced it. They finished it Sunday night sometime. The surface is normally bad and I can't see putting in new turf in one day making it any better. It has been raining all day here in PGH and looks like it might not stop through the night. I believe the Under is the play. Just beware of what happened when PGH played Balt it should be similiar to worse conditions I believe tonight. My opinion is that this game is going to be low scoring.
                Thanx Pitt--I also believe the Under may be the play tonight- it sounds dreadful from what you are saying and what I am seeing. Too many points for Pitt to cover - yet they fare well in this type of situation on MNF. I believe the Under is the play!
                "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                • #9
                  its raining hard in cincy and hasnt even stopped here so i expect this game to be played under water also tonight bring out your fishing gear because it is what it is
                  rjeremy for my accounts manager/i love how he keeps numbers

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                  • #10
                    UPDATE:

                    Heinz Field's turf was completed last night at 11 pm and was covered all day keeping the rain off of the surface. In addition they had heaters pumping heat under the tarp. The tarp under NFL rules can stay on the field upto 1 hour prior to gametime. This info is from the local news station. The turf situation is the first topic every hour on every newscast and was the front page story in our local newspaper, the Post Gazette. They also interviewed Rooney and he is anxious to see how the turf holds up. He seemed skeptical and according to the Turf's website you are suppossed to stay off the turf for 2-3 weeks and 4 weeks before heavy usage. The company said that is true for the usual 1 to 2 inch ***** soil...the sod put in at Heinz Field was 3 to 4 inches *****.

                    Anything else I hear I will report.
                    Best of Luck Everyone

                    2012 Record:

                    1 unit = $100


                    ***All sides and totals -110 unless noted***

                    ***Teasers are -120 & 7 Points on Sides and 5 Points on Totals ties push****

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                    • #11
                      thanks pitt for the update - I have to think this news will bring that number down all day, and then I think it might be good to tease pittsburgh with the over

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                      • #12
                        Muchogracias Pitt - Thanx for the intangible. 3-4 inches. Should be okay for the first half. Then if the rain continues- it may get quite sloppy.

                        It is rumored that Ricky Williams will take advantage of the loose grass as he will have some rolling papers on hand. seen on the sideline with a smile on his face- some think he is glad to be back and the rest of us know the real reason he smiles.
                        Last edited by Spearit; 11-26-2007, 06:22 PM.
                        "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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                        • #13
                          Rumor he may start and get alot of carries
                          Best of Luck Everyone

                          2012 Record:

                          1 unit = $100


                          ***All sides and totals -110 unless noted***

                          ***Teasers are -120 & 7 Points on Sides and 5 Points on Totals ties push****

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            UPDATE:

                            Break in the rain. Expected to pick up again and rain pretty steadily until 10 pm. Then a break maybe but some showers could be around. The one local station weatherman said it could be alot like the weather of the Baltimore game or it could be lingering rain all throughout the game.
                            Best of Luck Everyone

                            2012 Record:

                            1 unit = $100


                            ***All sides and totals -110 unless noted***

                            ***Teasers are -120 & 7 Points on Sides and 5 Points on Totals ties push****

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              The Under was our play and the Under wins big! Thanx Pitt and all!

                              Under 38 ---------------------WIN
                              "The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice.

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