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**CoachB** · 09-08-2003, 12:10 PM

Thanks

MM
Thanks..... I may be headed out there Saturday night.:D

**CoachB** · 09-08-2003, 12:13 PM

form

box the first 4 pups and use the one after the dash as a shot; or wheel the dog listed after the dash with the 4 others listed?

**Nicky Santoro** · 09-08-2003, 12:18 PM

I dont get ur numbers

Memphis,

Why do u just post numbers for all these tracks. To me it looks as if u are picking them out of a hat. U cant just give someone a bunch of numbers and expect him to know how to bet. I f u are boxing these dogs then u have a lot to learn about dog racing. U have to handicap the race for him give him the partial wheel bet, because if u dont do that u are just throwing ur money away. I hate when people go to the track and start wheeling dogs that is the first way to failure, along with betting all those gimmick races that u are giving them like tri super and twin tri that pay 1/4th of the actual ticket. They are only smart to pay on automatic payout nights. I hope u make a couple of bucks but betting like that will get u killed in the long run. And the best thing to do is to stick to ur own track, u know as much about wheeling downs as i do.

**wallstreet** · 09-08-2003, 12:29 PM

Hey nicky,

I think there are a ton of people who would appreciate information of how to approach the pups.

Why dont you post a good article of how to best wager on the tracks? I for one have little clue, but if I had some education and it helped improve my percentages, I might be interested in going a bit more.

But to be honest, a place where everyone looks like they walked out of the Salvation Army after lunch, people cant be making money too regularly..

**MemphisMafia** · 09-08-2003, 12:32 PM

Re: form

Originally posted by CoachB
box the first 4 pups and use the one after the dash as a shot; or wheel the dog listed after the dash with the 4 others listed?

Coach :

I do a 4 dog box on both the Q & Tri [ with the first 4 ] but the dash dog [ - x ] is one that I preach to always pay attention to and see if Joe Public is giving it no respect [ odds wise ] .

Q- 4 dog box = 12.00
Tri - 4 dog box = 24.00

You really should have a live tote board in front of you to watch for these underlays [ or overlays ] U.S. Offtrack has one as well as others .

Lets just watch these a few days like I said and see where they take you , because the cough has had its toll on alot of tracks this year !

G.L.

***MMM***

:cool: :cool: :cool:

**MemphisMafia** · 09-08-2003, 12:40 PM

Nicky

Hi ..... and glad to meet you also ?

My numbers are " FAR " from being pulled from anything [ unless you count a data-base ]

And I agree with wallstreet , lets see something from you minus all the jaw-jacking ?

Remember fellas its called Pari-Sharing , thats where most of the jocks come out of the Salvation Army Tunnel after giving about 22 % to the tracks the rest " has to go somewhere " ?

G.L.

***MMM***

:cool: :cool: :cool:

p.s. Nicky I dont recall you being on my guest list ? ....... security oh security we need you over here !

**hazsupport** · 09-08-2003, 01:13 PM

nicky

Nicky,
Continue to pay attention and learn. I didn't know anything about horse racing last week but I listened and asked questions politely. And guess what, I won some money. GL hc

**Nicky Santoro** · 09-08-2003, 01:13 PM

all i know is that people boxing any thing is like throwing their money away. I dont go a much as i used to but all i know is that is u box a bunch of dogs u are throwing ur money away. Like i said earlier all 4 of ur dogs cant win the race so u need to learn how to bet more efficiently. Im not saying that ur picks are bad but u wont get paid unless u play the alls. ie: 32/6/all and 32/all/6. Playing the alls is where u win the mony and it costs the same as ur 24 dollar 4 dog box. Just food for thought if u want a bomb to hit and get paid because they hardly ever run dead like u have them.

**Nicky Santoro** · 09-08-2003, 01:15 PM

HAzsupport

Pay attention,

I go to the track by my house every thursday. I continue to make a profit every year. I think i know what im talking about as i have about 100 signers to my name, well not to my name if u know what i mean

**MemphisMafia** · 09-08-2003, 01:26 PM

Nicky

I cant expect someone who has just started to learn all the things necessary to become a big hit bettor ,,, I still have trouble at it [ 35 years and counting ]

I just try and help them " not be a loser " the rest comes with time and the learning curve . And dont even say you cant win with boxes because they are by " far " the best way to approach this and leave you a ton of lee-way in your wagering process.

And if he bet the first race " he won " over a hundy big guy .... thats the bottom line in the wagering game , is it not ?

I too have many signers to my credit , lost count years ago but thats not the point . The point here is that I am giving out numbers nation wide and not losing . Join in and lend a hand heaven knows we could use your imput , just leave your negativity in the starters box and throw your stuff out there on the track so we can " all " see how much you hit the big ones ?

G.L.

***MMM***

:cool: :cool: :cool:

**Nicky Santoro** · 09-08-2003, 01:30 PM

Are u talking about all 15 of ur losers at Tucson on Sunday or all ur losers from PHX, I want to know why u give out races 7 and 11 at PHX because the novice wont know what he or she are getting into

**wallstreet** · 09-08-2003, 03:06 PM

Nicky,

Instead of saying what DOESNT work, why not show in detail what does work?

Saying things like:

"Like i said earlier all 4 of ur dogs cant win the race so u need to learn how to bet more efficiently. Im not saying that ur picks are bad but u wont get paid unless u play the alls. ie: 32/6/all and 32/all/6. Playing the alls is where u win the mony and it costs the same as ur 24 dollar 4 dog box. Just food for thought if u want a bomb to hit and get paid because they hardly ever run dead like u have them."

That is great shop talk and makes you look good to someone who doesnt know what "alls" are and how they vary from other strategies/bets. I could speak stock talk in ways that you might not understand and look smart, but how does that help the person that asked the question?

MMM has done nothing but offer help and try and explain things and is a very nice person. I would like to hear in a way that the 90% of us on here can understand, the approach you like. Keep it simple, or point people to a place where they can get educated.

This forum is not a pissing contest, everyone here tries to help.

**MemphisMafia** · 09-08-2003, 03:06 PM

Re: I dont get ur numbers

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
Memphis,

Why do u just post numbers for all these tracks. To me it looks as if u are picking them out of a hat. U cant just give someone a bunch of numbers and expect him to know how to bet. I f u are boxing these dogs then u have a lot to learn about dog racing. U have to handicap the race for him give him the partial wheel bet, because if u dont do that u are just throwing ur money away. I hate when people go to the track and start wheeling dogs that is the first way to failure, along with betting all those gimmick races that u are giving them like tri super and twin tri that pay 1/4th of the actual ticket. They are only smart to pay on automatic payout nights. I hope u make a couple of bucks but betting like that will get u killed in the long run. And the best thing to do is to stick to ur own track, u know as much about wheeling downs as i do.

I must know far more about Wheeling than you do Nicky , I just recieved a check from them today , as I have in the past and will in the future . Try shutting up for a little while and do whats been asked of you and learn something ?

**MemphisMafia** · 09-08-2003, 03:17 PM

Re: Coach [ Wheeling Matinee ]

Originally posted by MemphisMafia
Lets give your track a spin for a few days and see if we are on it ?

Wheeling Matinee

R1- 2436-5
R2- 1576-8
R3- 3572-6
R4- 6784-5
R5- 8416-3
R6- 8475-1
R7- 8614-7
R8- 6817-2
R9- 4157-8
R10- 1342-7
R11- 4712-5
R12- 7853-2
R13- 2467-3
R14- 8432-5
R15- 7185-2

G.L.

***MMM***

:cool: :cool: :cool:

Results [ not insults ]

R1- 436 [ WOW NICKY ]
R2- 782 [ 7 TO WIN 19.40 & 8 TO PLACE 33.80 SO NICKY CAN SEE THAT I AM NOT CHOOSING ALL CHAULK ]
R3- 124
R4- 1687 [ 1 STOLE THIS ONE WITH TROUBLE AT THE TURN ]
R5- 3176
R6- 417
R7- 168 [ WOW NICKY ]
R8- 178 [ WOW NICKY ]
R9- 5184 [ TRIPLE WOW NICKY ] EASY SUPER ! plus the others

Get in here and help out with your 60.00 bets Nicky so I can see where you are throwing your money away ... cause the lady dont need all those alls " Hoss "

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