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  • #16
    Originally posted by BillMill71
    Griffey is bigger then meets the eye. 6'3" 230. Move his workout from the Gabe Kapler model (single rep, high weight) to a leaner Hank Blaylock (many rep, light weight) and he fits the mold of a steroid users.

    This is just throwing it out there. I just can't see how any person can be above suspicion at this point. Tremendous body change or not. Steroid or HGH or Amphedimines. I mean did anyone think "damn, Mota (mets reliever) is huge?", no but he used. Juan Rincon, another caught user I believer, and in no way a physical speciman.

    Yes, there were the obvious guys, but we wouldn't have put Palmiero at the top looking at his stature.
    Good point. Ryan Franklin is about 6'0" and 165...he got caught using.

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    • #17
      How about Luis Gonzalez:

      6'2" 200 lbs

      1991 - 1997 84 TOTAL HR

      1998 23
      1999 26
      2000 21
      2001 57
      2002 28
      2003 26
      2012 - 2013 NCAAF

      21 - 20 - 0

      2012 - 2013 NFL

      14 - 10 - 1

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BillMill71
        I mean did anyone think "damn, Mota (mets reliever) is huge?", no but he used. Juan Rincon, another caught user I believer, and in no way a physical speciman.
        I agree but I think pitchers use it for the healing powers more than the muscle enhancement. i am not an expert in this field but I have read a couple of things that it helps the body repair from strenuous workouts as well.
        Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910

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