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    NCAA: Oklahoma must vacate 2005 season
    Associated Press

    Updated: July 11, 2007, 3:53 PM ET

    OKLAHOMA CITY -- The Oklahoma football program must vacate its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.


    The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.


    The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the vacated wins, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-19.


    Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010.


    Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011.


    Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team.


    "Although this case centered on a few violations involving three student-athletes, the committee finds this case to be significant and serious for several reasons," the NCAA report said, noting the length of time of the violations and the fact that Oklahoma had appeared before the committee in April 2006 regarding violations in its men's basketball program.


    On Aug. 3, the day before the Sooners began preseason practice, Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports. That led to a subsequent NCAA investigation.


    The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations.


    During the investigation, the university disputed that allegation, arguing that the NCAA should applaud, not penalize, its efforts to root out violations and noted that NCAA president Myles Brand told one news outlet that the university "acted with integrity in taking swift and decisive action" in the case.


    Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility. Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools -- Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana -- where they can resume their careers this season.


    Oklahoma officials also appeared before the Committee on Infractions in April 2006 following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff.


    Oklahoma escaped major sanctions in that case, as the NCAA Committee on Infractions found the university guilty of a "failure to monitor," a less severe ruling than "lack of institutional control," which had been recommended by the NCAA's enforcement staff.


    The committee moved Oklahoma's self-imposed probation so it would begin in May 2006 and end in May 2008. The NCAA also issued a public reprimand and censure but otherwise accepted the university's self-imposed sanctions, which included reductions in scholarships, recruiting calls and trips and visits to the school by prospective recruits.

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    That sucks KB, but on the up side you still will kick Thug U in football
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    • #3
      Fucken cheating bastards!!!!!!!!!!

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      • #4
        i aint giving back my heisman.


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        • #5
          Take away our wins for 05' when the infractions happened before the 06' season in which they were already kicked off the team. I could care less either way, but I think the NCAA is retarded for this decision. If it happened DURING the 05' season, sure I can see where they're coming from, but really

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 10DimeBry
            i aint giving back my heisman.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by longnex

              He doesnt even write something, see what i mean
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              • #8
                Originally posted by jcindaville
                He doesnt even write something, see what i mean
                Sorry. I figured it would be easier for you to understand if there was no words.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by longnex
                  Sorry. I figured it would be easier for you to understand if there was no words.
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                  • #10
                    I apologize KB, but this is just another tap on the wrist as the NCAA tries to maintain its image while not damaging the big boys in the BCS. They lose 2 scholarships for 2 years and can't refer to a season in which they won 8 games? I'm sure there are tons of banners from that year. This does absolutely nothing to discourage cheating in college sports.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ctt8410
                      I apologize KB, but this is just another tap on the wrist as the NCAA tries to maintain its image while not damaging the big boys in the BCS. They lose 2 scholarships for 2 years and can't refer to a season in which they won 8 games? I'm sure there are tons of banners from that year. This does absolutely nothing to discourage cheating in college sports.
                      What exactly do you want them to do? Not trying to be rude, but what other penalties would you recommend?

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                      • #12
                        Again, this is nothing against OU. Too many teams have been allowed to get away with too much including Alabama, Fresno, Florida State...

                        A postseason and/or television ban isn't out of the question. Along with extended probation, loss of more than 4 scholarships, tougher restrictions on the number of assistant coaches, and the opportunity for current players to transfer without penalty.

                        In 1987, SMU's entire season was cancelled along with all home games in 1988. I'm not proposing that the NCAA take that road again, but these institutions need to feel the punishment when they choose to break the rules.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ctt8410
                          Again, this is nothing against OU. Too many teams have been allowed to get away with too much including Alabama, Fresno, Florida State...

                          A postseason and/or television ban isn't out of the question. Along with extended probation, loss of more than 4 scholarships, tougher restrictions on the number of assistant coaches, and the opportunity for current players to transfer without penalty.

                          In 1987, SMU's entire season was cancelled along with all home games in 1988. I'm not proposing that the NCAA take that road again, but these institutions need to feel the punishment when they choose to break the rules.
                          I agree with you, but when OU found out about the rules infractions, they moved swiftly and quickly and never once tried to cover things up. The only thing they could have done differently imo, was to have a better watch on those kids, but with 60 kids on a football team, it's hard to hire 60 babysitters you know?

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                          • #14
                            Here is a question, how much money do you think the biggest retard to comeout of OU Brian Bosworth made when he worked for the car dealerships. He is a shady dude.

                            Does this mean they have an asterisk by their 0-12 2005 football season? That would make for good conversation in 100 years if it didn't.

                            "Hey look they lost the NC game to USC in 04, and every game in 05."



                            in related news, Sam Houston State QB Rhett Bomar has announced he is transfering to the University of Texas.

                            I can't stand OU and how they think that Barry fucking Switzer is the second coming of Christ.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by kbsooner21
                              I agree with you, but when OU found out about the rules infractions, they moved swiftly and quickly and never once tried to cover things up. The only thing they could have done differently imo, was to have a better watch on those kids, but with 60 kids on a football team, it's hard to hire 60 babysitters you know?
                              Agreed

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