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    That is the rumor on ESPN. He wants to be traded (Still) and he named 3 teams (NY,Chicago,Phoenix). Phoenix is in their division which makes them doubtful. NY doesn't seem to have what it would take and they say that leaves the Bulls. They also said if it happens, it could be by next weekend and before the draft!

  • #2
    Originally posted by wayne1218
    That is the rumor on ESPN. He wants to be traded (Still) and he named 3 teams (NY,Chicago,Phoenix). Phoenix is in their division which makes them doubtful. NY doesn't seem to have what it would take and they say that leaves the Bulls. They also said if it happens, it could be by next weekend and before the draft!
    I read somewhere on espn that the only way he could or would go to Phoenix is that the Lakers wanted Stoudemire and others.. No way in hell does Phoenix do that IMO..

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    • #3
      Originally posted by wayne1218
      That is the rumor on ESPN. He wants to be traded (Still) and he named 3 teams (NY,Chicago,Phoenix). Phoenix is in their division which makes them doubtful. NY doesn't seem to have what it would take and they say that leaves the Bulls. They also said if it happens, it could be by next weekend and before the draft!
      I would trade anybody on the team but Deng

      Hopefully they would take Duhon, the # 9 pick, Wallace ( to match salaries) , and either Gordon or Hienrich. Unfortunatly Nocioni would probably be thrown in although I would hate to see him leave.

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      • #4
        he is not going anywhere.........

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
          I would trade anybody on the team but Deng

          Hopefully they would take Duhon, the # 9 pick, Wallace ( to match salaries) , and either Gordon or Hienrich. Unfortunatly Nocioni would probably be thrown in although I would hate to see him leave.
          I keep hearing that they would want Gordon & Deng in return.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Brady22
            he is not going anywhere.........
            If Mitch stays, i think Kobe goes. If Mitch gets fired ... You will know why.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by wayne1218
              I keep hearing that they would want Gordon & Deng in return.

              done in a heartbeat

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              • #8
                Originally posted by musclemann
                done in a heartbeat
                Lineup ...

                Hinrich
                Bryant
                Nocioni
                Thomas
                Wallace

                I just looked and the only way it would work is if PJ Brown was included.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wayne1218
                  Lineup ...

                  Hinrich
                  Bryant
                  Nocioni
                  Thomas
                  Wallace

                  I just looked and the only way it would work is if PJ Brown was included.

                  The bulls also have the knicks pick in this years draft. Gordon and deng are nice players but getting a talent like bryant doesnt come every 5 years so if you get a chance you take it. Dont think the lakers will go for it though. Kupchak will be gone.

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                  • #10
                    Intresting article:

                    More than two weeks after Kobe Bryant made his trade request to the Lakers, he still wants out, says his agent.

                    "Kobe's position remains unchanged," Bryant's agent Rob Pelinka told ESPN.com on Friday. "Kobe would like to be moved."

                    In fact, Kobe met with owner Jerry Buss on Friday and once again voiced his desire to be traded.

                    The question remains, will the Lakers move him? The head says no. But the scuttlebutt suggests otherwise. A number of GMs and agents around the league seem convinced that he's going to be traded.


                    The Lakers had strong interest in trading for Jermaine O'Neal before Kobe's trade request. But that interest has cooled since then. Why? The Lakers have been saying that the Pacers' asking price (Lamar Odom, Andrew Bynum and the No. 19 pick) is too high. But maybe it's because there's no need to bring in a big-money player like O'Neal and gut the team if Kobe isn't going to be around.

                    From what I can gather, the Lakers would have two conditions to meet in any Kobe Bryant trade:

                    1. They want to send him to the Eastern Conference.
                    2. They need a star player back in return.

                    The Eastern Conference preference would potentially rule out such places as Phoenix and Golden State, both of which have significant assets and interest.

                    And, of course, the lack of available stars would rule out just about every team in the East, including the Knicks.

                    Some East teams lack the star power to bid directly for Bryant. Others have stars that aren't going anywhere.

                    For instance, the Cavs and Heat have superstars LeBron James and Dwyane Wade, but both are untouchable. Ditto, apparently, for Dwight Howard in Orlando.

                    Chicago, from what I hear, is Bryant's first preference, and he might be willing to waive his no-trade clause to play there. While the Bulls have lots of assets, such as Ben Gordon, Luol Deng and the No. 9 pick in the draft, that package lacks true star power.

                    Based on my conversations with various sources around the league, I see two intriguing possibilities if the Lakers are looking for an Eastern Conference star -- the Wizards' Gilbert Arenas and the Celtics' Paul Pierce.

                    Scenario 1

                    Arenas isn't Kobe, in talent or stardom. But he is from Los Angeles, he's more than three years younger, he has great magnetism and, like Bryant, he can fill the seats.

                    With Arenas saying he'll opt out of his contract with Washington next summer, the Wizards might want to start looking at ways to move him now before running the risk of losing him for nothing.

                    Here's one potential trade, with Bryant headed to Chicago and Arenas to L.A.

                    The Bulls would send Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and P.J. Brown (sign-and-trade) to Washington, and the No. 9 pick to L.A.

                    The Lakers would send Bryant to Chicago.


                    The Wizards would send Arenas and Etan Thomas to L.A.

                    Under that scenario, which couldn't be completed until mid-July, the Lakers would get a star player (Arenas) and a high draft pick (No. 9) which, I'm told, they'd use to get Yi Jianlian if he's still on the board.

                    The Bulls would be paying a very high price for Kobe -- two high lottery picks and this year's No. 9. But the Bulls would keep Deng, something they desperately want to do. On the other hand, they still wouldn't have a low-post scorer.

                    The Wizards would avoid having to break the bank for Arenas next summer, would bring in two very talented young players and would get some serious cap relief down the road.

                    Scenario 2

                    A similar trade could work if the Lakers were willing to substitute Boston and Paul Pierce. While Pierce is almost 30 years old, I'm told the Lakers like him -- and he's from L.A. too.

                    The Bulls would send Gordon, Tyrus Thomas and P.J. Brown (sign-and-trade) to Boston, and the No. 9 pick to L.A.

                    The Lakers would send Bryant to Chicago.

                    The Celtics would send Pierce to L.A.

                    That deal would make the Celtics even younger than they already are, but it would also give them plenty of assets to continue making deals.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by musclemann
                      The bulls also have the knicks pick in this years draft. Gordon and deng are nice players but getting a talent like bryant doesnt come every 5 years so if you get a chance you take it. Dont think the lakers will go for it though. Kupchak will be gone.
                      Deng is a stud and a future all star who is only 22 years old/ I could care less if they trade Gordon or Hienrich but Deng is untouchable in my eyes

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                      • #12
                        Yi Jianlian won't get past Boston @ #5 if he is still there.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GOLDENGREEK
                          Deng is a stud and a future all star who is only 22 years old/ I could care less if they trade Gordon or Hienrich but Deng is untouchable in my eyes
                          i don't know how anyone could be untouchable when it comes to acquiring kobe bryant.

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                          • #14
                            Lakers might have been better off getting Jason Kidd when they had the chance.
                            NFL
                            5* 1-0
                            2* 6-2-1
                            1* 9-4
                            total = 16-6-1


                            ________________

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                            • #15
                              I could get rid of Gordon and Deng, but I want Thomas a Bull. To me, if they get rid of Thomas...I think he can turn into another Elton Brand.

                              We need the low post help, trading away our future even to get Kobe, isn't smart IMO.

                              Deng, Gordon, Brown and the first round pick is more then enough.....almost too much.

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