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  • #16
    All I know is that just about any deal including this one which would mean Lowell would be traded I am against.
    If Lowell stays, other than the cost involved( which is not my problem), then acquiring Helton can't hurt.
    Last edited by savage1; 01-27-2007, 04:01 PM.

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    • #17
      If they could do it for Lowell, Clement & Tavarez ... I would do it in a heartbeat!

      Can we throw Youk in there too and get Garrett Atkins added with Helton?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by savage1
        All I know is that just about any deal including this one which would mean Lowell would be traded I am against.
        If Lowell stays, other than the cost involved( which is not my problem), then acquiring Helton can't hurt.
        I would much rather keep Youk over Lowell if i had to choose. The stats almost mirror each other on offense with Lowell hitting 5 % points more and with 7 more HR'S and 8 more RBI's but Youk has a much higher OB %

        Youk is also 5 years younger and makes 1/2 a million compared to Lowell's 9 Million. Simply put, the numbers are not even close when you look at age and salary. You have to get rid of Lowell.

        P.S. Please don't bring up defense cuz Youk was lights out last year with the glove and he made some amazing plays. I don't think we lose anything there!

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        • #19
          helton doesn't help the pitching, sox should've went after another pitcher especially if yanks get clemens.
          Plus Helton's contract is a joke.
          How many more titles will the Yankees try to buy it never ends.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wayne1218
            I would much rather keep Youk over Lowell if i had to choose. The stats almost mirror each other on offense with Lowell hitting 5 % points more and with 7 more HR'S and 8 more RBI's but Youk has a much higher OB %

            Youk is also 5 years younger and makes 1/2 a million compared to Lowell's 9 Million. Simply put, the numbers are not even close when you look at age and salary. You have to get rid of Lowell.

            P.S. Please don't bring up defense cuz Youk was lights out last year with the glove and he made some amazing plays. I don't think we lose anything there!
            You make some valid points, but Lowell adds a lot of intangibles, and simply put, I like the way he plays the game, and think all things considered, he added a lot last year.
            I would not be as upset as Lowell leaving as Manny for example, but as stated I personally would like to have him on the team for another season(remember 2/3 of the infield is already gone with Gonzalez and Loretta-too many people gone too quickly is usually not a good thing).

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            • #21
              Originally posted by savage1
              You make some valid points, but Lowell adds a lot of intangibles, and simply put, I like the way he plays the game, and think all things considered, he added a lot last year.
              I would not be as upset as Lowell leaving as Manny for example, but as stated I personally would like to have him on the team for another season(remember 2/3 of the infield is already gone with Gonzalez and Loretta-too many people gone too quickly is usually not a good thing).
              Give me Youk at 3rd, Helton at 1st & Loretta at 2nd and i would be happy. Lowell will struggle just to match last years average numbers IMO.

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              • #22
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                • #23
                  As a Sox fan, I obviously hope all of the moves including this one pay off.
                  Honestly, I don't feel that at least in the short term(meaning this season), one can realistically think that the Sox are going to run away with the division;I think just making the playoffs will be a tremendous accomplishment with the all of the turnover and new faces.
                  If I am correct, the majority of Sox fans will be upset if the Sox are not a contender, as they expect Sox will be in the hunt every year;this is not Detroit for example where most fans just accepted the fact that "Rome could not be rebuild overnight."
                  Anything can happen of course, but at this point I would not give Sox more than a 50% chance of making the playoffs.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by wayne1218
                    Give me Youk at 3rd, Helton at 1st & Loretta at 2nd and i would be happy. Lowell will struggle just to match last years average numbers IMO.
                    Loretta is gone, isnt he?

                    PEACE

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                    • #25
                      loretta is out. i like this deal only if rockies eat some of the contract.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by MtrCtyPimp
                        Loretta is gone, isnt he?

                        PEACE
                        Yes, i was being wise because pedroia SUCKS!!!!!!!

                        They never should have let Loretta go!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 10DimeBry
                          loretta is out. i like this deal only if rockies eat some of the contract.
                          They will eat 8-10 million a year

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by wayne1218
                            Yes, i was being wise because pedroia SUCKS!!!!!!!

                            They never should have let Loretta go!
                            We agree on that-thats for sure.
                            I would be surprised if Pedroia is with the team two years from now;he looks like mediocrity(at best)personified.

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                            • #29
                              Trade talks have broken off!

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