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sorry, maybe it's in the wrong sectionOriginally posted by Spark
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Ray Rhodes and Art Shell both got smoked in 1 year because they are black and Ty Willingham got smoked too early at ND......do you think if Rod Marinelli was black he would still be coaching the Lions? Also there are not nearly enough black head coaches in college nor the NFL.......this is a very big deal that two have made it in the same year and Marvin Lewis resurrected a dead franchise in the Bengals.
Many occasions I think the race card is played at poor times but sometimes barriers that are broken need to be celebrated......I dont think its being said enough.
Obama for President!
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this will be a huge topic for 2 full weeks now2013 NCAA POD Record
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I coached high school football and baseball and its ashame, but it will be hyped way to much.
I don't think that Lovie Smith outcoached Sean Payton nor did Dungy outcoach Belichick (sp).
At this level, the can ALL coach. They are judged by how the players play. Many times unfairly - black or white.
PLAYERS who make plays make good coaches.
Coaches can have the perfect game plan but if the players don't perform, the coach takes the heat.
The media will beat this to death about 2 black coaches and I guess its ok, but it is also unfair to the white AND black coaches who didn't get there.
Just my opinion.jc Wishes He Can Get A Goat
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totally agree...you beat me to itOriginally posted by TwoTonTony
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Can't wait...wish we went back to the 1 week between conf championships and SBOriginally posted by 10DimeBryComment
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I agree the plug got pulled a little early on Ty but the other 2 they were not working out. there is no evidence it is because of race. i think the nfl is making great strides while the NCAA is lagging a lot in their interviewing process.Originally posted by MtrCtyPimpRay Rhodes and Art Shell both got smoked in 1 year because they are black and Ty Willingham got smoked too early at ND......do you think if Rod Marinelli was black he would still be coaching the Lions? Also there are not nearly enough black head coaches in college nor the NFL.......this is a very big deal that two have made it in the same year and Marvin Lewis resurrected a dead franchise in the Bengals.
Many occasions I think the race card is played at poor times but sometimes barriers that are broken need to be celebrated......I dont think its being said enough.
Obama for President!
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Ray Rhodes was not a good head coach and the 2nd go round for Shell there was basically a mutiny. and to say Marinelli would have been fired if he were black is an inflammatory comment that has no factual basis....just opinion. It has more to do with the guy above him...Millen. Bottom line is there are good coaches in the sport both black and white. i just hope the best man gets hired.Comment
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Originally posted by MtrCtyPimpRay Rhodes and Art Shell both got smoked in 1 year because they are black and Ty Willingham got smoked too early at ND......do you think if Rod Marinelli was black he would still be coaching the Lions? Also there are not nearly enough black head coaches in college nor the NFL.......this is a very big deal that two have made it in the same year and Marvin Lewis resurrected a dead franchise in the Bengals.
Many occasions I think the race card is played at poor times but sometimes barriers that are broken need to be celebrated......I dont think its being said enough.
Obama for President!
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There aren't enough white cornerbacks. Should a special rule be made to guarantee a white cornerback gets a look to make the team? How about the NBA? SO tired of hearing not enough "blacks" in football. Maybe management roles but certainly not personnel. If it could just ALL be based on performance. On the field is ok but off the field isn't? Makes sense.Comment
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This is history in the making, whether we like it or not......
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This is going to beaten to death , but it is a very noteworthy feat, especially in light of the fact that the clubs are mandated by the league to grant token interviews to at least one minority candidate.
Funny thing is, it will probably be the new "in" trend, to hire a black coach, after the success of this year.
Props to Lovie and Tony!You can't always get what you want, but if you try some time, you might find, you get what you need.Comment
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Art Shell got fired because he was black? I agree with Ty, can understand waht you mean about Rhides, but I disagree...and Shell had a bad team that brought nothing to the table and ad to go. He was a bad hire!Originally posted by MtrCtyPimpRay Rhodes and Art Shell both got smoked in 1 year because they are black and Ty Willingham got smoked too early at ND......do you think if Rod Marinelli was black he would still be coaching the Lions? Also there are not nearly enough black head coaches in college nor the NFL.......this is a very big deal that two have made it in the same year and Marvin Lewis resurrected a dead franchise in the Bengals.
Many occasions I think the race card is played at poor times but sometimes barriers that are broken need to be celebrated......I dont think its being said enough.
Obama for President!
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Art Shell was given only 1 year IMO because of his color....history shows a black coach has a shorter period of time to produce or he will hit the skids quickerOriginally posted by Three Jack
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He should never have been hired for the job. Compounding the mistake he hired an offensive coordinator that, if memory serves correctly, had been out of football for 12 years and was managing a B&B since he was out of football...imo, he deserved to go.....Three Jack's Record http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/sh...10#post1323910Comment
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Art Shell did a horrible job. I don't care if he's pink, purple, orange, or green. He had to go!Comment
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