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**BettorsChat** · 12-09-2002, 09:04 PM

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Marshall -2.5
Penn St. -5.5
Oklahoma -6
Boise St. -10
Arizona St. +17.5

**BettorsChat** · 12-10-2002, 03:46 PM

No opinions from anyone on these?

**JTMONEY** · 12-10-2002, 06:16 PM

I am hammering Cincy -8

**casheasy** · 12-10-2002, 06:30 PM

These are the games I am hammering so far:

Okla St -7
TCU +5
Wash St +6
Tulane +11- (Gimme a break)

I normally do not tease, but already have one in;
Cincy-1- with Iowa Sr + 15-

God, how I love the Bowl season!!!!
:D

**chiefsc** · 12-10-2002, 09:50 PM

Here's my quick look at the pairings for now

5* Cinci -7.5
5* Marshall -2.5
2* Texas Tech -5.5
3* UCLA -10.5
2* Tulane +11.5
2* Toledo +4
4* Pitt +2
5* Okie State -7
4* Nebraska -4.5
2* Arizona State +17.5
3* West Virginia -5.5
3* Colorado -7.5
2* Minnesota +8.5
3* Wake Forest +6.5
1* LSU +10 (stay away from this game....neither team play well under pressure
3* Florida -1.5
3* NCSU PK
5* Auburn +5
4* Oklahoma -6
3* FSU +3.5
5* USC -6
4* OSU +13
5* Boise St -10
2*Washington -3½
2* Colorado State -5
5* Georgia Tech -3½
4* Maryland -1
2* Virginia Tech -11

I'll explain my 5* picks later.

**chiefsc** · 12-10-2002, 10:36 PM

5* Cinci -7.5
For starters....UNT is in the Sun Belt conference. They don't play as tough as competition as Cinci does in the CUSA. Cinci went 6-1 ATS in their last 7 games while UNT went 4-3. Cinci should hand UNT their second straight Bowl Arse Whipping

5* Marshall -2.5
Two words....Byron Leftwich...simple. Ragone was supposed to get it done this season and didn't...Byron did. Not only that but Bryon had over 1000 yards passing on a bad wheel. This kid is a stud and will lead this team to victory like he did against Toledo last week....oh and don't forget about his second half heroics from last years bowl game....simply amazing.

5* Okie State -7
S. Miss is just plain bad. So. Miss went 3-8 ATS and 0-4 ATS on turf....guess what this game is being played on? Turf. Okie State plays on turf...nothing new to them. Okie State has some great wins this season against Oklahoma, Texa A&M and Nebraska. They almost pulled off the win against Texas but came up short 17-15. The Cowboys are money!

5* Auburn +5
Larry Johnson can't run against good defenses. All his yardage came from Northwestern 257 yds, Illinois 279 yds, Indiana 327yds and Michigan State 279 yds. When he played good teams....not so good Iowa (OT) 68 yds, Michigan (OT) 78 yds and Ohio St 66 yds. Auburn has a good run defense....good enough to shut down Alabama's rushing offense in Tuscaloossa.

5* USC -6
Carson Palmer is possibly the best QB in the country and USC might be the hottest team in the country right now. If it wasn't for a couple early season mishaps they could be in the Fiesta on January 3rd. Iowa has played for 3 weeks....and won't play for another 3 weeks. That is nearly 2 months of not playing any competitive football.....that is way too much time and it is very difficult for the players to get back into game rythmn after that long a time....hell, they might start thinking its time for two-a-days its been so long.

5* Boise St -10
ISU lost to UCONN at home. No way they hang with the high power offense of Boise State. ISU lost 5 of their last 6 ATS...not to mention a 17 point loss to UCONN at home....did I mention they were humiliated by UCONN at home? I was a HUGE ISU fan for the first 6 weeks of the season.....then they just packed up and went home. BSU lays it on heavy in front of the home crowd.

5* Georgia Tech -3½
I'm picking GT simply because they like winning on the West Coast....they did it against Ty's Ranked Stanford team last season and they will do it again against unranked Fresno State.

please do the exact opposite of everything I say because I am a jinx. Thank you.

**DeBerg** · 12-11-2002, 12:00 AM

Go Kansas St. -17.5

Originally posted by BettorsChat
Opinions Only:Kansas St -17.5 $$$$$$$$$

Marshall -2.5
Penn St. -5.5
Oklahoma -6
Boise St. -10
Arizona St. +17.5

**BettorsChat** · 12-11-2002, 12:47 AM

DeBerg,

Welcome to the forum.

The only thing that bothers me about this game is that Arizona St can put pts on the board so that's what makes me think they can keep it within the spread. The line keeps moving up on K. State though.

**binx** · 12-11-2002, 11:20 AM

i say let them drive the k-st line thru the roof and then take az st.i got burned last year playing k-st in a bowl game, they have a hard time covering large numbers away from home and with teams from out of the big 12. but i wil have to watch and see how the pac 10 does in its earlier bowl games

**binx** · 12-11-2002, 11:36 AM

i would never put a 5* against penn state they are a hard team to go against in bowl games.johson may not have had the greatest running numbers in those games but check his all purpose yards.remember zack mills can throw a play and they do have some good recivers.the last time these two meet in a bowl it was suppose to be close and penn state rolled

**chiefsc** · 12-11-2002, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by binx
i would never put a 5* against penn state they are a hard team to go against in bowl games.johson may not have had the greatest running numbers in those games but check his all purpose yards.remember zack mills can throw a play and they do have some good recivers.the last time these two meet in a bowl it was suppose to be close and penn state rolled

oh yeah....PSU lost all those games that Johnson didn't have a very well on the ground...go with the Tigers!...War Eagle!

**binx** · 12-12-2002, 12:00 AM

good point

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