To all my Bettors Chat Family....

[AlexTheGreat]

I've been really fortunate to found this website and know you guys. Its has really been fun and informitive. I really got killed this year , lost about 30+k's, the absolute worst year in sport wagering, and need to rebuild my bankroll. It was really hard for me, but I decided that gambling is not for me. I got a little daughter and a beautiful fiance whom that I truly love. I am putting them in jeopardy by losing all this money, and was very selfish act.

To all you gamblers: please take my advice and play responsible. I had to learn the hard way.

I will layoff for awhile. My financial situation is not where it needs to be. As always, good luck with you guys. I will check in because, honestly, I am addicted to Bettors Chat.

[bover1]

been there with that kind of cash and more........gl alex hope u drop in a couple times a week still.....

[kbsooner21]

Alex, there are a lot more important things in life other than gambling. I think you are making a GREAT decision here. In my opinion, sports gambling should be fun. You win some, you lose some, but it's an extremely hard way to make a lot of extra income. It's unfortunate that you had to learn that way, but I think each and every one of us has been there a time or two. I hope everything works out with your family as that is by far the most important thing in life. I hope you get everything straightened out. Never hesitate to stop in and let us know how everything is going. God Bless my man and take care.

[10DimeBry]

Alex, there are a lot more important things in life other than gambling. I think you are making a GREAT decision here. In my opinion, sports gambling should be fun. You win some, you lose some, but it's an extremely hard way to make a lot of extra income. It's unfortunate that you had to learn that way, but I think each and every one of us has been there a time or two. I hope everything works out with your family as that is by far the most important thing in life. I hope you get everything straightened out. Never hesitate to stop in and let us know how everything is going. God Bless my man and take care.

i agree with Phil. i hope you will still stop on here from time to time GL

[TwoTonTony]

Alex......
I think that is smart....those 2 people have to come before this stuff.....It is a fun/hobby that can get a hold of you.....It is very very hard to be disciplined....I have been down the same road as you and it will get better.......Do not beat yourself up....It is water under the bridge......GL in all u do

[bover1]

i agree with Phil. i hope you will still stop on here from time to time GL

maybe kb should take his own advice about boozing.........

[BettorsChat]

I've been really fortunate to found this website and know you guys. Its has really been fun and informitive. I really got killed this year , lost about 30+k's, the absolute worst year in sport wagering, and need to rebuild my bankroll. It was really hard for me, but I decided that gambling is not for me. I got a little daughter and a beautiful fiance whom that I truly love. I am putting them in jeopardy by losing all this money, and was very selfish act.

To all you gamblers: please take my advice and play responsible. I had to learn the hard way.

I will layoff for awhile. My financial situation is not where it needs to be. As always, good luck with you guys. I will check in because, honestly, I am addicted to Bettors Chat.

gl and I hope everything turns around for you.

[Meg30]

i agree with Phil. i hope you will still stop on here from time to time GL

dr.phil


best of luck with everything alex

[Spark]

gl and I hope everything turns around for you.

Same here Alex ... Just hang out with us at times ...


Good Luck Buddy

[frankb03]

I got a little daughter and a beautiful fiance whom that I truly love. I am putting them in jeopardy by losing all this money, and was very selfish act.

I quit gambing for 10+ years. I wasn't fair to my infant daughter and my wife that I was too consumed with sports and checking scores. In the early 90s we didn't have instant score updates on the internet as we do now.

I didn't bet at all. I wouldn't even buy boxes for the superbowl. I quit cold turkey. I resumed in 2003. However, it is now a hobby and not an obsession. My salary has probably tripled and my unit wager is about 1/3 of what it was in the past. I enjoy the capping part more than the actual wagering part.

GL to you and your family.

[Art]

Gambling is addictive. Any source of pleasure can be addictive.

There are two types of pleasure: positive and negative. A positive pleasure comes from acquisition of a positve while a negative pleasure comes from avoidance of a negative.

Assume you win 3K in a lucky run over multiple bets. This provides repeated positive pleasure. Then assume you lost 5K in an unlucky run. This is very negative - pain is provided instead of pleasure. Now your next bet is driven by two drives: a positive drive to acquire a source of pleasure and a negative drive to obtain the pleasure that can wipe away the past pain. Your drive for winning is now doubled as a positive pleasure as well as negative pleasure quest. Such is the stuff of addiction.

We can get addicted to anything that is a source of positive and/or negative plesasure. Sex, substances, social relationships, movies, music, etc. All such things come at a price - there are no free lunches. The trick is to maximize the pleasure and minimize the cost or pain. That is what we are here for.

To maximize pleasure and minimize pain requires requires that we better understand causality. In this way we accrue wisdom, and with wisdom we entangle with universal wisdom that is the eternal sub-quantum information processing (universal computer) underlying the unfolding of the material universe and all events thereof - causality.

As much as you lose in gambling it is what you learn from the experience that counts.

I have lost over a $100,000 over 20 years of gambling. I quit years ago. The reason I quit is that I did not have the discipline to gamble. I would set out a plan at the beginning of a season - betting limits per game and per weekend, etc. Then I would get caught up in the rush of winning or the attempt to wipe away losses and break my plan. The lack of discipline eventually contributed to failure but I would have failed eventually if I had stuck to a disiplined plane - just would have taken longer.

I now make picks simply to spur my interst in watching games I picked. This also shows me why my decision to quit was the right one.

Now there are some very few people who can win in their lifetime. This is the way things are distributed - the curve of probability. The trouble is that more money is lost than won - considering the vig that goes to the bookie as a part of money lost by gamblers. Over time every gambler will lose more than they win if they bet enough - some very few die before they reach this point of loss (given more time it would catch up with them).

Now this is causality - reality. It is what gambling taught me. An expensive but valuable lesson of the way things are.

No action is inherently moral or immoral - the universe is amoral outside of our evalutions. Good and bad are individual evaluations we make of the actual/predicted, pleasure/pain reward/punishment) effects in regards to self/others. When we agree on this it is codified in moral principles but these come strictly from ourselves instead of from any external source.

You make your reality and morality.

[jcindaville]

Good luck Bro, i know where you are, cause i have been there on more than one occasion. I hope you recoop your losses by not wagering, but thru savings. Good luck

[seaofred]

BY KBSOONER

there are a lot more important things in life other than gambling


THERE IS ,WOW WHAT ARE THEY BUDDDY,.....LOL

[Chado1]

well said there art!!

[BearDown]

Good luck to you Alex. We have seen a few people drop out here in the past month. Not a good sign.