MAtt Leinart

[JBC13]

Show me another guy that put up these numbers in back to back BCS Spotlight games and failed at the next level. One great game, maybe but i've never seen a College player do this on a stage that big before (TWICE)!

'06 Rose Bowl
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Down 1 heading to the 4th and Won

30-40 267 yds. 0 td 0 int
19 rushes for 200 yds and 3 td's

The most amazing performance i've ever seen by a QB on ANY level!

'05 Rose Bowl
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Down 10 heading to the 4th and won!

16-28 180 yds 1 TD 1 Int
21 rushes 192 yds 4 TD's


In 2 games
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46-68 447 yds 1 TD
40 rushes 392 yds 7 TD's
1 Turnover!


This is basically for those who forgot how great Vince was in these games. Both were amazing in my eyes!

they were amazing performances...that doesnt make him a great or even a good nfl qb

[wayne1218]

NONE!

How many does McNabb have? NONE
McNair? NONE
Vick? NONE

NO ONE will have compare any of those 3 with Marino. Lots of great QB never won or played in a Super Bowl. Does that diminsh their greatness? Of course not.

Gun Slingers don't win either

Marino NONE
Fouts NONE
Moon NONE
Manning NONE


Kurt Warner would be the one i can think of that won!

[wayne1218]

they were amazing performances...that doesnt make him a great or even a good nfl qb

Maybe not but i'm still waiting for one who has done close to that and failed in the NFL. You have yet to give me one!

[JBC13]

Maybe not but i'm still waiting for one who has done close to that and failed in the NFL. You have yet to give me one!

i cant think of one that has come up that big in 2 huge bcs games....i just dont thik his style is good for the nfl....i hope im wrong....i really like him.

[frankb03]

Gun Slingers don't win either

Marino NONE
Fouts NONE
Moon NONE
Manning NONE


Kurt Warner would be the one i can think of that won!

Doug Williams WON
Mark Rypien WON
Trent Dilfer WON

I have no idea where we are going with this.

[JBC13]

Gun Slingers don't win either

Marino NONE
Fouts NONE
Moon NONE
Manning NONE


Kurt Warner would be the one i can think of that won!

what are favre,brady,steve young,montana,aikman just to name a couple? im not being sarcastic...just wondering what you consider those guys.

[wayne1218]

2 More ...

Jim Kelly
Drew Bledsoe

2 more Gunslingers whose feet were concreted in the pocket while they throw for 300 yards but never win a Super Bowl!

[JBC13]

Doug Williams WON
Mark Rypien WON
Trent Dilfer WON

I have no idea where we are going with this.

me either.....we could go back and forth all night...but good talk im going to bed

[frankb03]

Maybe not but i'm still waiting for one who has done close to that and failed in the NFL. You have yet to give me one!

OK same question to you. Aside from Young, what QB came close to what Young did in college and was succesful in the NFL?

[wayne1218]

Doug Williams WON
Mark Rypien WON
Trent Dilfer WON

I have no idea where we are going with this.

If you put Dilfer on a gunslinger list, you need your head examined. I'm talking about Hall of Fame or close to talent that could stand there and throw for 300 yards each week and take 2 months to get 5 rushing yards. None of them won a SB playing that way except for Warner!

[frankb03]

what are favre,brady,steve young,montana,aikman just to name a couple? im not being sarcastic...just wondering what you consider those guys.

Favre - gunslinger

What's the definition of gun slinger? A QB/Team that relies on throwing the ball?

[JBC13]

If you put Dilfer on a gunslinger list, you need your head examined. I'm talking about Hall of Fame or close to talent that could stand there and throw for 300 yards each week and take 2 months to get 5 rushing yards. None of them won a SB playing that way except for Warner!

i think the guys i listed are gunslingers...jmo

[wayne1218]

OK same question to you. Aside from Young, what QB came close to what Young did in college and was succesful in the NFL?

McNabb, McNair & Culpepper all put up HUGE numbers in College but 2 of them were at smaller non BCS Conferences. What has Syracuse done since McNabb left?

[frankb03]

If you put Dilfer on a gunslinger list, you need your head examined. I'm talking about Hall of Fame or close to talent that could stand there and throw for 300 yards each week and take 2 months to get 5 rushing yards. None of them won a SB playing that way except for Warner!

Except, Warner won't get a sniff of the Hall.

[wayne1218]

Favre - gunslinger

What's the definition of gun slinger? A QB/Team that relies on throwing the ball?

I was waiting for Favre or Elway's name.

Did you miss the Concreted in pocket post? Favre and Elway were 2 of the BEST Scramblers of All Time. It's not even comparable to the ones i mentioned!

Favre was a gun slinger no doubt, but he also could scramble all day in the pocket!