Nfl Talk 2006!!!!!

[BigWeiner]

This kind of talk kills me. How soon do we all forget last season? Last December the Redskins and Cowboys met in Washington, esentially with a playoff berth on the line, and the Redskins DESTROYED them, leading 35-0 early in the 3rd quarter before calling off the dogs. Brunell threw 3 TDs in the first half of that game by the way. A few weeks later the Skins were winning a playoff game in Tampa while the 'Boys sat at home.

Now the Cowboys have added a 32-year-old WR who didnt even play last year and a kicker who choked HUGE in the playoffs last year and suddenly they are the Super Bowl team and the Redskins suck. It doesn't make any sense. No one has any basis for this other than saying the Redskins "suck" or are "overrated," without giving any reasons why. Except to say Brunell is old even tho he's basically the same age as Bledsoe. It's just so ridiculous. The Redskins went 10-2 in the NFC last year and added solid player in Llyod and Randle-El to the position they were worst at. Yeah, Randle-El is overpaid and yeah, he's overrated, but how many teams in the league have a better 3rd WR than the guy who started for the Super Bowl champs last year? They also added possibly the best O-Coord in the NFL to play with Portis, Moss, Lloyd, and Cooley among others, while retaining Gregg Williams to lead one of the best defenses in the NFC. Why would this team "suck"? They didn't suck last year with Brunell, so why would they suck this year?

People act like T.O. will have the same effect on Dallas he had in Philly, except Philly was already the best team in the NFC before T.O. got there. Dallas couldn't even make the playoffs last year.

I can't wait to watch the Cowboys crash and burn this season.

Redskins and Giants will come out of the East to make the playoffs. Mark it down.

I think the NFC East is basically up for grabs, injuries will play a big part. I never said the Redskins suck, IMO they'll be 9-7 and miss the playoffs. It's impossible to figure out how much a factor TO will be, you say 32 year old that didn't play last year, I say, best receiver in football, opens up the entire field and makes a huge difference.

[BigWeiner]

IMO, Bledsoe and Brunnell, can both be effective, as long as they don't make mistakes, a lot has to do with their O line, and weapons.

[CheechB03]

we added Al Saunders.

Big Deal! Last I checked he won't suit up. I'm interested in the marriage between the run oriented Gibbs and Saunders. While Saunder did great in KC don't forget KC has arguably the best o-line in football.

[Tomorrows Paper]

TP, you're allowing your bias towards you team affect your judgement if you think the Skins can win with an rookie QB. Without Brunell the Skins have been bad. What makes you think they can win without him?

I don't like any NFL teams other than who I wager on, but you may be right as far as bias. I have always liked Auburn, and maybe I think Campbell is better than he really is. I just don't think the QB position in Washington will have to do too much for them to be good.

On another note, I love the Ravens to win the AFC North, and will be betting that future. I can't believe no one else has picked them.

[STaylor36]

IMO, Bledsoe and Brunnell, can both be effective, as long as they don't make mistakes, a lot has to do with their O line, and weapons.

That's quite a change from your posts of 15 minutes ago when you called Brunell a "joke" and said you'd "seen better arms on a lazy boy" so you can why I would think you were saying that the Redskins would not do well.

[STaylor36]

Big Deal! Last I checked he won't suit up. I'm interested in the marriage between the run oriented Gibbs and Saunders. While Saunder did great in KC don't forget KC has arguably the best o-line in football.

I just flat out don't agree with you if you think coaches don't matter in the NFL. I won't even argue with you on that because we are so far apart on that.

Also, Saunders had a pretty run-oriented offense in KC with Holmes and LJ consistently being among the top fantasy players in the NFL.

The Redskins O-Line is not the Chiefs by any means, but it is one of the NFC's better groups.

[Mike1]

AFC East- Dolphins
AFC North- Steelers
AFC South- Colts
AFC West- Broncos
Wildcards- Patriots, Chiefs

NFC East- Cowboys
NFC North- Packers
NFC South- Panthers
NFC West- Seahawks
Wildcards- Redskins, Cardinals

SuperBowl- Dolphins over Panthers

[BigWeiner]

That's quite a change from your posts of 15 minutes ago when you called Brunell a "joke" and said you'd "seen better arms on a lazy boy" so you can why I would think you were saying that the Redskins would not do well.

Compared to the other QB's in the NFL, he's bad. I can name 20 QB's I'd rather have. So yes I think he's joke, but I also thought Trent Dilfer was a joke. Obviously, teams can win without a good QB and they're a good example. If the Redskins are playing the Panthers in the playoffs, they won't win, do you know why? Brunnell, plain and simple.

[TheFranchise21]

You're kidding? He's has ZERO experience.

Neither did Roethlisberger

[TheFranchise21]

I never said the Redskins suck, IMO they'll be 9-7 and miss the playoffs. .

Look at the Redskins schedule and find me 7 games they are going to lose.

[STaylor36]

Compared to the other QB's in the NFL, he's bad. I can name 20 QB's I'd rather have. So yes I think he's joke, but I also thought Trent Dilfer was a joke. Obviously, teams can win without a good QB and they're a good example. If the Redskins are playing the Panthers in the playoffs, they won't win, do you know why? Brunnell, plain and simple.

This is EXACTLY what I'm saying. We are on the same page now.

I don't know if there are 20 QBs I'd rather have but he's obviously not one of the best.

I think Carolina is a better overall team than the Redskins, including having a better QB. I also think that game would probably be in Carolina because the Skins have a tougher division and therefore probably won't finish with as good a record as the Panthers. Nov. 26 Carolina comes to Washington. It will be an awesome football game.



My final comment on this is that I think a lot of people in here are selling a good football team short based on just one player. One player who really didn't play all that bad last season (58% completions, 3,050 yards, 23 TD, 10 INT, 11-7 record, playoff road win.) And that was with just 1 good WR to throw to.

I think that's a big mistake because if Brunell can recreate what he did just ONE YEAR ago, the Redskins are going to be a force to be reckoned with in the NFC.

[CheechB03]

Cheech you don't have to tell me about Brunell. I am well aware of the guy's shortcomings. He was absolutely AWFUL in 2004. I could never write enough words to describe how bad he was in some of those games. It was painful to watch.

But in 2005 he came back and played some really good games. He had those 2 long TD passes in Dallas on MNF to steal that game. He played well in the huge win over NYG in December. He made several pinpoint throws in the playoff clincher in Philly. I'm sure people forget this, but he was actually mentioned as a Pro Bowl candidate in the NFC at one point last year, partly because the NFC doesn't have NEARLY the QB talent the AFC has, and partly because Brunell was surrounded by good players that helped him overcoming his various shortcomings.

Brunell is not Peyton Manning, he's not even Jake Delhomme. But with all the talent the Redskins have and the great coaches the Redskins have, he doesn't need to be. He just needs to be Trent Dilfer. The Skins have WAY more offensive talent than the 2000 Ravens, and while their defense isn't as good as that team, they are a very solid bunch. The Redskins have the best coaches in the NFL, a talented offense with numerous weapons, a consistently tough defense, a good home field advantage (6-0 vs. the NFC at home last year), and playoff experience from the year before. This sounds like a good football team to me. All I'm calling for them to do is go 1 round further than they did last season.

Is that so unrealistic?

Unrealistic? Not at all.

[BigWeiner]

Look at the Redskins schedule and find me 7 games they are going to lose.

Here you go, keep in mind, the difference between making the playoffs, and not making the playoffs, is a couple of home loses against division rivals. It's a tough division.

@ Dallas
@NY Giants
@Indy
@ Philly
@TB
and 2 of the following
Jacksonville
Carolina
@St. Louis
Dallas
NY Giants

[TheFranchise21]

Here you go, keep in mind, the difference between making the playoffs, and not making the playoffs, is a couple of home loses against division rivals. It's a tough division.

@ Dallas
@NY Giants
@Indy
@ Philly
@TB
and 2 of the following
Jacksonville
Carolina
@St. Louis
Dallas
NY Giants

Anyone could go onto the teams website and pull off the schedule. The redskins will not lose a game at home this year except the possibilty of Carolina. We are not going to lose ALL 3 division road games. We went 2-1 on the road in the division last year. Why would we do worse this year? @TB???Pretty sure we went to their house and beat them in the Playoffs last year.

[BigWeiner]

This is EXACTLY what I'm saying. We are on the same page now.

I don't know if there are 20 QBs I'd rather have but he's obviously not one of the best.

I think Carolina is a better overall team than the Redskins, including having a better QB. I also think that game would probably be in Carolina because the Skins have a tougher division and therefore probably won't finish with as good a record as the Panthers. Nov. 26 Carolina comes to Washington. It will be an awesome football game.



My final comment on this is that I think a lot of people in here are selling a good football team short based on just one player. One player who really didn't play all that bad last season (58% completions, 3,050 yards, 23 TD, 10 INT, 11-7 record, playoff road win.) And that was with just 1 good WR to throw to.

I think that's a big mistake because if Brunell can recreate what he did just ONE YEAR ago, the Redskins are going to be a force to be reckoned with in the NFC.

Bottom line is, it's gonna be 1 or 2 games that make the difference on who makes the playoffs and who doesn't. I think having Brunnell as your starting QB and adding TO are bigger factors than you do, so we just disagree, as they say, that's why they play the games.