Poll: Vote for President

[mountaineerfan7]

Kerry's Senate Record after 19+ years.

A solid 0 when it comes to sponsoring and passing legislation

Amount of time Kerry spent talking about his Senate experience during his DNC acceptance speech.

45 seconds

If you want to know how Kerry would handle the fight against terror, I refer you to Putin and how the Russians have been handling terror.

Kerry = the most liberal/least qualified democratic candidate to run for president since Dukakis!

[fats12]

Originally posted by mountaineerfan7
Kerry's Senate Record after 19+ years.

A solid 0 when it comes to sponsoring and passing legislation

Amount of time Kerry spent talking about his Senate experience during his DNC acceptance speech.

45 seconds

If you want to know how Kerry would handle the fight against terror, I refer you to Putin and how the Russians have been handling terror.

Kerry = the most liberal/least qualified democratic candidate to run for president since Dukakis!

Not 100% true....He is more liberal than Dukakis......Dukakis was a forerunner for tougher Drunk Driver laws which have been adopted by most states...Kerry has stood for nothing but special intrests!

[Ldawg]

Well ...

it would appear from the VIEWS of threads , that alot more people like REDHEADS then PRESIDENTS

so vote for a REDHEAD LMFAO

[jkpickett]

United health care...is this a utopia?

[CoverBoy]

?

What the hell is this doing in here? ... on a weekend day no less.

Stick with sports .. we're jammed up enough as it is .

Today is for football and baseball ... Who gives a damn about anything else.

LOL

-CB

[wizardofoddz]

CoverBoy

The last date anyone posted on this thread was 9/11/04
I really don't think it has much to do with what is going on with this site

[Ldawg]

Yep...

ya really gotta pay attention here !

[Southern Dandy]

Bush all the way

It's as simple as this: If you're not gay vote Bush.
If you are vote Kerry.
It's as easy as that.

[gamblin1]

In the movie "Invasion of the Body Snatchers," anyone who went to sleep
that had a "pod" placed for them awoke as a mind numbed robot and fell
in line behind everyone else that already was.

It reminds me of the blind support Bush gets because it seems that more
and more people are going to sleep and awakening as mind numbed
conservatives joining the Republican party.

But I've taken a more serious look at what the Republicans have become
and it's scarry.

The Republican party has not only grown and gained power by using the
same tactics as the Nazi's did, but the rabid "passion" surrounding
both political party's is also strikingly similar.

I realize that comparing anyone to the Nazi's is uncalled for and
should be repudiated. But at least consider the following:

1) Create an Enemy:

Nazi's took anti-Jewish feelings, made it worse by blaming Jews for
everything that was wrong in Germany and made them the enemy.

Republicans took anti-liberal feelings, made it worse by blaming
liberals for everything that is wrong with America and made them the
enemy.

Republicans have done such a good job, that they've turned "liberal"
into a dirty word that Democrats have to run away from. In fact,
Republicans use the word "liberal" as an insult. What does that tell
you?

2) Blame Government:

Germans didn't trust their government during the 1920s and Hitler used
that sentiment to bring the Nazi's to power.

Republicans use their mistrust of government to gain power.

3) The Rhetoric:

Nazi's used rabble rousing speech's to build their party.

Republicans use rabble rousing speeches (much more inciteful and
inflammatory than Democrats) to secure their base.

4) The Propaganda:

Nazi's repeated the same propaganda over and over to brainwash Germans
and built their party.

Republicans repeat the same propaganda over and over to brainwash
Americans to build their party: "liberal media," "cut taxes,"
"Democrats tax and spend," "Democrats will take your guns away,"
"Democrats are for big government," "Democrats are soft on (fill in the
blank)," "Republicans are tough on (fill in the blank)," "get
government out of our lives," "drill in Alaska," "partial birth
abortion," "privatize," "deregulate," "let the free market decide," and
now "John Kerry's a flip-flopper," (Democrats don't have propaganda of
their own, except "tax cuts for the rich;" and that's brand new.)

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless
one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly...it must confine
itself to a few points and repeat them over and over."
- Joseph Geobbels

Nazi's told Germans not to believe leaflets dropped by British planes
before WWII because it was "enemy propaganda."

Republicans brush off negative news stories by saying it came from the
"liberal media" or it's "liberal propaganda."

The Nazi's had Geobbels to spread their propaganda.
The Republicans have Karl Rove, talk radio and Fox News to spread their
propaganda.

Germans believed their party and Hitler, no questions asked.
Republicans believe the GOP and George Bush, no questions asked.

Walk into a room with 10 Democrats, and you'll come out with a dozen
opinions.
Walk into a room with 10 Republicans, and you'll come out with one
opinion.

Are there any Republicans that can think for themselves? Or do they
need Rush Limbaugh to tell them what to think, what to say, and what
"talking points" to use in an argument with a "lib" (speaks volumes
when they describe themselves as a "Rush Republican," doesn't it?)?

"The essence of propaganda consists in winning people over to an idea
so sincerely, so vitally, that in the end they succumb to it utterly
and can never escape from it."
- Goebbels

5) The Enforcers:

The Nazi's had the Gestapo and the "brown shirts."
The Republicans have the prisons at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay, the
Patriot Act and Attorney General John Ashcroft.

6) One Party:

In 1933 the Nazi's declared themselves the only party in Germany.
The goal of Karl Rove and the GOP is to create a "one-party nation."

They got a good start by using drastic gerrymandering to at least
achieve "one-party" dominance in the US House of Representatives.

7) Favor Big Business:

Hitler's economic policies were designed to help the largest
corporations in Germany, particularly ones where high-ranking Nazi
officials were majority shareholders.

Bush appeases big business, big oil and his crony's.

8) The Invader:

Hitler invaded Europe without provocation or a credible reason, but
conned his country into thinking there was.

Bush invaded Iraq without provocation or a credible reason, but conned
his country into thinking there was.

Again, while it is and should be a knee jerk reaction to severely
denounce any comparison between the Nazi's and anyone, you have to
remember it is a knee jerk reaction.

But at worst, if I'm right, Republicans are just like the Nazi's -
without the camps. At best, if I'm wrong, the Republican party has
become a cult - with power.

I'm glad I'm a Democrat and can think for myself.

Public Service Announcement:

Signs that you're a brainwashed Republican:

1. Your views and opinions were/are someone else's.
2. You blame "liberals" and/or Clinton for everything.
3. Bush is not to blame at all for 9/11 because that was Clinton's
fault.
4. You constantly use the word "liberal" in derogatory ways.
5. You regularly spout Republican propaganda: "Democrats tax and
spend," "liberal media," "Democrats are soft on (whatever)," "Democrats
are going to take my guns away," etc.
6. You take the conservative/Republican side of every issue.
7. You're too stubborn to ever admit you're wrong (even on a minor
point) and ignore facts that do.
8. You lie, distort facts and stand logic on it's head because you must
defend your argument, even when you know you're on thin ice.
9. When "debating" with a "lib," you don't use your own reasons or
ideas to prove your argument and instead repeat GOP talking points or
talk radio rhetoric practically word for word.
10. You don't believe a negative news story on a Republican because it
came from the "liberal media."
11. You fail to notice blatant Republican hypocrisy, such as: Bush 41
and Dole go to war: good, Kerry goes to war: bad; Clinton avoids
Vietnam: he's "a draft dodger" who hates America, Bush and Cheney avoid
Vietnam: They're great leaders and great Americans.

And...

Clinton lies under oath in a civil deposition - Impeachment
Bush lies, exaggerates and misleads the country into a totally
unnecessary war that has turned into a colossal disaster that we'll be
paying dearly for, for decades - "4 more years, 4 more years!"

12. You want to respond to this by ridiculing me or calling me a "lib."


If more then two or three of these apply, please seek professional help
immediately. I'm serious.

[Southern Dandy]

gamblin1

What the fuck are you talkin about youn butt fuckin bastard?

[savage1]

Gamblin1-thanks for writing that.
In my opinion, you are right on!

[wizardofoddz]

gamblin1

you've hit it right on the head.....
Southern Dandy, you have proven his(gamblin) point, nothing more to say.

[jjoneill]

KERRY

KERRY he told me to PARLEY new england and washington!! SO lets see if he should be president?????????

[sharethewealth]

Vote for JFK

[meteor]

i vote for captain kirk for president.

being canadian i voted for mr. spock for prime minister but seems he came up a little short

on a serious note, gamblin man...very interesting post. a little over the top but very astute observations. i would say though that the democrats probably use some of those same tactics that you outline as well though albeit not to the extremes of the republicans. from a detatched perspective, as someone with no rooting interest for either party, it does really appear that the republicans are becoming more and more extreme as the years go by. they are severely way more right wing than any first world governemnt anywhere else in the world.