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    Trends and Indexes

    Thursday, October 17

    Good Luck on day #290 of 2019!

    NOTE:
    As information becomes available, we will attempt to post the trends and indexes as soon as possible.
    Information is posted from what we believe are reliable sources.
    Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the posting member or BettorsChat.


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  • #2
    Armadillo: Thursday's six-pack

    Over/under win totals for the NBA this season:

    57.5– Bucks

    54.5— Rockets, 76ers, Jazz, Clippers

    52.5— Nuggets

    50.5— Lakers

    49.5— Celtics

    48.5— Warriors


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    Armadillo: Thursday's Den: Nobody asked me, but…….

    13) First off today, a little news…….at some point soon, probably early next week but maybe as early as tomorrow, I‘m going to be going off the grid for a week or so.

    Turns out I have a detached retina in my right eye, and I’m going to have surgery to get it fixed. The doctor basically told me I have to lay on the couch and DO NOTHING for a week after the operation until the eye heals, so I’ll be on the shelf for a little while, but hopefully I’ll be back for the start of college basketball season.

    12) Wound up in four different doctors’ offices Wednesday; not good- the last one was a pre-exam for the operation where they give you an EKG and test your urine (for what, I have no idea, but mine passed)

    Two thoughts here…….
    — Peeing in a little plastic cup is an underrated skill (seriously, tough to do it well)
    — My EKG, to quote the doctor, was “Perfect” so I have that going for me.

    11) NFL stuff:
    — Michell Trubisky is expected to be back at QB for the Bears this week.
    — Titans are starting Ryan Tannehill at QB this week against the Chargers.
    — Steelers are going back to Mason Rudolph at QB for this week’s game.

    10) Titans’ deposed starting QB Marcus Mariota is now 26-35-2 ATS as an NFL starter.

    9) Troy 37, South Alabama 13— These teams had to be happier than hell the baseball game got rained out in New York, giving them a little more national TV exposure. Kid on South Alabama dropped a wide open TD pass that hampered the Jaguars’ chances of winning or covering.

    8) 22-year NBA veteran Vince Carter holds the league record with 245 different teammates; four of his current Atlanta teammates weren’t even alive when Carter made his NBA debut in 1998.

    7) In the second half of their last two games, Kansas City has run only 35 plays; their opponents have run 79 plays, and that is a problem. Chiefs will be missing five starters in Denver tonight.

    6) Was reading an article about a bookmaker who said the biggest thing most books need is volume, because no matter what, books generally pocket around $6 for every $100 wagered.

    5) St Louis Cardinals had a rough week in the NLCS, but their pitching coach Mike Maddox got two hole-in-ones in the same round last week in Washington. That doesn’t happen very much.

    4) Under Jason Garrett, Dallas Cowboys are 35-17-1 ATS in the 2nd half of games when the Cowboys are behind at the half. Pete Carroll, Bill O’Brien are #2, #3 on that list.

    3) Redskins’ QB Alex Smith broke his leg LY but still hopes to play in the NFL again; since he broke the leg, Smith has had 17 surgeries on it. Seventeen.

    2) FWIW, thru six weeks of play, Arizona Cardinals have allowed the most fantasy points to tight ends. Fantasy owners who have the Giants’ Evan Engram should enjoy that.

    1) Angels signed Joe Maddon to a 3-year contract as manager; Maddon spent his first 31 years in pro baseball working in the Angels’ organization.

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      Last edited by StarDust Bum; 10-17-2019, 12:15 PM.

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      • #4
        917HOUSTON -918 NY YANKEES
        NY YANKEES are 22-6 SU (18.3 Units) vs. teams outscoring opp by 1 or more runs/game on the season in the current season.




        MLB
        Dunkel

        Thursday, October 17



        Houston @ NY Yankees

        Game 917-918
        October 17, 2019 @ 8:08 pm

        Dunkel Rating:
        Houston
        (Greinke) 17.504
        NY Yankees
        (Tanaka) 16.443
        Dunkel Team:
        Dunkel Line:
        Dunkel Total:
        Houston
        by 1
        11
        Vegas Team:
        Vegas Line:
        Vegas Total:
        NY Yankees
        -135
        8 1/2
        Dunkel Pick:
        Houston
        (+115); Over





        MLB

        Thursday, October 17


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        Trend Report
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        New York Yankees
        NY Yankees is 5-1 ATS in its last 6 games
        NY Yankees is 4-2 SU in its last 6 games
        The total has gone UNDER in 4 of NY Yankees's last 5 games
        NY Yankees is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games at home
        NY Yankees is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games at home
        The total has gone UNDER in 10 of NY Yankees's last 15 games at home
        NY Yankees is 5-2 ATS in its last 7 games when playing Houston
        The total has gone UNDER in 4 of NY Yankees's last 6 games when playing Houston
        NY Yankees is 8-3 ATS in its last 11 games when playing at home against Houston
        NY Yankees is 8-3 SU in its last 11 games when playing at home against Houston
        Houston Astros
        Houston is 15-7 ATS in its last 22 games
        Houston is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games
        Houston is 17-5 SU in its last 22 games
        The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Houston's last 5 games
        Houston is 9-3 ATS in its last 12 games on the road
        Houston is 9-3 SU in its last 12 games on the road
        The total has gone UNDER in 12 of Houston's last 16 games on the road
        Houston is 2-5 ATS in its last 7 games when playing NY Yankees
        The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Houston's last 6 games when playing NY Yankees
        Houston is 3-8 ATS in its last 11 games when playing on the road against NY Yankees
        Houston is 3-8 SU in its last 11 games when playing on the road against NY Yankees


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        Last edited by StarDust Bum; 10-17-2019, 12:13 PM.

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        • #5
          MLB
          Long Sheet

          Thursday, October 17


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          HOUSTON (112 - 58) at NY YANKEES (107 - 61) - 8:08 PM
          ZACK GREINKE (R) vs. MASAHIRO TANAKA (R)
          Top Trends for this game.
          HOUSTON is 46-36 (-14.0 Units) against the money line in road games this season.
          HOUSTON is 32-26 (-9.1 Units) against the money line in road games in night games this season.
          HOUSTON is 72-47 (-9.9 Units) against the money line against right-handed starters this season.
          HOUSTON is 93-74 (-19.1 Units) against the money line when playing against a team with a winning record over the last 2 seasons.
          GREINKE is 17-21 (-12.3 Units) against the money line after a win over the last 2 seasons. (Team's Record)
          NY YANKEES are 107-61 (+16.2 Units) against the money line in all games this season.
          NY YANKEES are 25-6 (+15.7 Units) against the money line as a home favorite of -125 to -175 this season.
          NY YANKEES are 59-25 (+14.1 Units) against the money line in home games this season.
          NY YANKEES are 42-13 (+17.8 Units) against the money line in home games against right-handed starters this season.
          NY YANKEES are 22-4 (+14.5 Units) against the money line in home games after a loss this season.
          NY YANKEES are 49-29 (+19.9 Units) against the money line when playing against a team with a winning record this season.
          HOUSTON is 20-4 (+13.0 Units) against the money line in road games when playing with a day off over the last 2 seasons.

          Head-to-Head Series History
          HOUSTON is 6-4 (+1.5 Units) against NY YANKEES this season
          5 of 10 games in this series have gone OVER THE TOTAL this season . (Over=-0.6 Units, Under=-0.3 Units)

          ZACK GREINKE vs. NY YANKEES since 1997
          GREINKE is 4-5 when starting against NY YANKEES with an ERA of 4.52 and a WHIP of 1.276.
          His team's record is 5-8 (-2.8 units) in these starts. The UNDER is 8-4. (+3.7 units)

          MASAHIRO TANAKA vs. HOUSTON since 1997
          TANAKA is 2-4 when starting against HOUSTON with an ERA of 4.55 and a WHIP of 1.146.
          His team's record is 5-6 (-0.8 units) in these starts. The OVER is 5-6. (-1.6 units)

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          Last edited by StarDust Bum; 10-17-2019, 12:14 PM.

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          • #6
            ALCS Game 4 Betting Preview

            Houston Astros vs New York Yankees, 8:08 ET, FS1

            With Wednesday's proposed Game 4 getting washed out because of the weather, both the Yankees and Astros avoid what would have been considered a bullpen day for both. We will never know how that type of game would have played out, and given the depth and talent the Yankees have in their bullpen, you would have to figure they would have had the edge.

            Instead, Game 4 gets pushed to Thursday as it's a rematch of Game 1 starters with Zack Greinke and Masahiro Tanaka getting the ball. Tanaka and the Yankees managed to win that series opener by a 7-0 final score, scoring three runs off Greinke in six innings and padding the lead with four more from there. Now down 2-1 in the series, New York's going to need to win Game 4 to get back on even ground with the Astros, because the last thing they want to face is being down 3-1 and needing to not only win Game 5 at home, but go into Houston and win Games 6 and 7 as well. That's not even discussing the fact about which one of Houston's stud starting pitchers they'll be up against in all of those meetings.

            Therefore, it's not hard to make the argument that Game 4 could essentially be the series for the Yankees, and as a 30-cent home favorite in Game 4, you know the Bronx Bombers will get plenty of support. But is that the best betting option?

            MLB Odds: Houston (+120) vs New York (-130); Total set at 8

            Not only will the Yankees likely end up as a popular side for Game 4 just based on their specific situation, but with the narrative that Greinke is Houston's “weak link” growing stronger after falling in Game 1, there is support on both sides in terms of wanting to play on the Yankees and play against the Astros in this game.

            And while it is true that Greinke hasn't had his best stuff since becoming a Houston Astros player, calling him a “weak link” when comparing him to what Verlander and Cole have done this year is disrespectful to all three of them. Verlander, and especially Cole, have had absolutely phenomenal seasons in 2019 and probably ever other pitcher in the majors would be considered “weaker” to the performances they've put up. Even for all the credit Verlander and Cole have gotten, that's still not giving them enough credit in that regard.

            And for Greinke, yes, the transition back to the American League has come with some bumps in the road, but what team in the league wouldn't want him as their third option in a playoff series? It's not hard to figure he'd be at worst the #2 man in the Yankees rotation were he to flip sides, and he would have been considered a #1 for probably every other playoff team in the 2019 postseason outside of what Washington brought to the table.

            So just because Greinke has had some issues in his new uniform, doesn't mean he should be an automatic fade in this spot. Yes, situationally, the Yankees are in a decent position to even up this series in Game 4, being at home, with their #1 guy on the hill vs a #3 for Houston, and this being the 4th time in 2019 that they've faced Greinke (twice while he was with Arizona), but I'm not ready to trust Tanaka being as dominant as he was in Game 1 (1 hit allowed in 6 IP). Given that the Yankees are going to attract the majority of the support in all likelihood because of all those things, the side is probably one of the easiest stay aways of the post season for me overall.

            But it is the pitching rematch situation that leads me to a play on the total. We've only seen one specific playoff rematch between starting pitchers in these playoffs so far – St Louis/Atlanta Game 5 with Flaherty and Foltynewicz squaring off after doing so in Game 2 as well – and that result in the return match flipped both ways. St Louis lost Game 2 in an 'under' result, and then thanks to a huge 1st inning offensively, the Cardinals were able to win Game 5 and cash 'over' tickets in no time.

            Flip flopping those results in rematches is a general theory that I tend to support if they make sense in other lines of thought as well, and taking the 'over' for Game 4 does seem to fit the bill (hence another reason to be tentative in backing the Yankees ML).

            If the Yankees are going to even this ALCS at two games apiece, they are going likely going to do so by waking up their bats and scoring 4+ runs. This is a Yankees team that averaged 5.46 runs per game at home this year, and will now have close to 48 hours to stew about their many missed opportunities in Game 3.

            In that Game 3 the Yankees had two guys on, no outs in the first inning before ultimately stranding the bases loaded, Didi Gregorius was a few feet away from a three-run shot in the bottom of the 5th, and all in all they left nine men on base, six of which were in scoring position. If Greinke is indeed the lesser of three evils these Yankees bats have to face in this series, New York will have to capitalize on those kinds of chances in Game 4, and I do believe they will.

            However, at the same time, it's not like the Astros were a model of offensive efficiency in Game 3 as well, as they stranded the bases loaded in the 1st inning too, and finished the game with 10 ducks left out on the pond, all of which were out there in scoring position. Even with Tanaka on the hill, the Yankees are playing with fire if they continue to give the Astros those kinds of opportunities, as eventually they'll find there way home too. In Tanaka's two regular season starts against Houston, the Astros scored no fewer than 4 runs in either of those games, and a 4-4 type game in the late innings gives us a winning ticket on the high side of this total.

            With improved weather – with winds projected to be quite strong and blowing out – and a scheduled HP umpire in Dan Bellino and his 17-12-4 O/U mark this year likely behind the plate, I believe we see the first relatively high-scoring game of this 2019 ALCS with both sides trading crooked numbers with one another.

            As I said earlier, if the Yankees are going to win this game, you've got to figure they'll need 4+ runs to do so, and if you and I figure that, you know Houston does as well. From the Astros perspective, they would take great satisfaction in out-slugging this “savage” Yankees lineup on their own field to go up 3-1 in the ALCS, and they'll do their best to make it happen.

            These two teams are too loaded offensively not to have at least one game in this series turn into a slugfest where the chips fall where they may in terms of the eventual winner, and I'm backing that happens here in Game 4.
            Last edited by StarDust Bum; 10-17-2019, 12:12 PM.

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