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**MemphisMafia** · 06-10-2004, 08:20 PM

Re: Memphis Help

Originally posted by Big Country 5
MMM

I just got a rude awakening in the horses.I played a tri box at Hollywood and won.The race payed 900.00 for a trifecta.I thought the payout would be half of that.Olympic says a tri box is an exotic bet and they only payed me 75.00.I'm pretty disapointed.Who should I play the horses with?I only have one account and it is with Olympic.I feel like tearing something up.

Thanks

What Day , What Race , What $ Amount Wager , What #`s

I have used the greek for 2 years now , but never a horse or dog wager . I smell fish here :confused:

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**Big Country 5** · 06-10-2004, 08:45 PM

Memphis

Race#6 at Hollywood

#2
#3
#9

Today I boxed these.They say they only pay 100 to 1.
Can you help?I only played 1.00 per combination.

Thanks

**wizardofoddz** · 06-10-2004, 09:04 PM

my 2 cents

Some books only pay 50-1 on exotics.
You have to know what you are getting into before you bet.
This is not unheard of

**MemphisMafia** · 06-10-2004, 09:04 PM

Hollywood Park - June 10th, 2004 - Race 6
Claiming - For Thoroughbred Four Year Old and Upward Fillies and Mares Six Furlongs On The Dirt
Purse: $24,000
Plus: $2,000 (Other sources )
Available Money: $26,000
Value of Race: $26,000 1st $14,400, 2nd $4,800, 3rd $2,880, 4th $1,440, 5th $480, 6th $400, 7th $400, 8th $400, 9th $400, 10th $400
Weather: Clear Track: Fast
Off at: 3:54 Start: Good for all

Pgm HorseName (Jockey) Wgt M/E PP SP 1/4 1/2 Str Fin Odds
2 Clever Coed (Mercado, P.) 122 BL bf 2 8 6-1 1/2 5-2 1/2 3-Head 1-Nose 2.70
3 Tidy Step (Espinoza, V.) 118 BL 3 10 10 7-2 1/2 5-1 2-1/2 32.30
9 Tender Teen (Ruis, M.) 117 BL f 9 3 2-1 1-Head 1-1 3-3 2.50*
10 Shes a Freebie (Valenzuela, F.H.) 119 BL b 10 1 1-Head 2-1 1/2 2-1 1/2 4-1/2 17.30
1 La Bella Reina (Martinez, F.F.) 118 BL f 1 6 3-2 3-1 4-Head 5-Nose 11.50
4 Zodiaque (Bisono, A.) 113 BL bf 4 4 4-1 1/2 4-1 1/2 6-2 6-1 12.50
5 Ama Ray (Figueroa, O.) 118 BL b 5 7 7-1/2 8-4 7-7 7-11 34.60
7 Champ's Ole' (Court, J.K.) 118 BL f 7 9 9-3 10 9 8-1/2 54.80
6 Suspicious Caper (Berrio, O.A.) 118 BL f 6 5 8-Head 9-1 1/2 8-1 1/2 9 8.30
8 Montana Banana (Baze, T.) 120 BL b 8 2 5-1/2 6-Head --- --- 3.00
Fractional Times: 22.16, 44.84, 57.31, 1:10.88

Winner: Clever Coed - Dark Bay or Brown Mare, May 07, 1998
Bred by Bonnie J. Bobbitt in WA
Pedigree: Private School - Baldini's Best , by Sovereign Dancer
2 claimed
horse(s): Ama Ray:
New Owner = Beardsworth, Don, Decauwer, Dennis and Lurie, Peter; New Trainer = Gary Stute
Montana Banana:
New Owner = Mark Glatt; New Trainer = Mark Glatt

Claiming Prices: Clever Coed: $20,000; Tidy Step: $20,000; Tender Teen: $20,000; Shes a Freebie: $18,000; La Bella Reina: $20,000; Zodiaque: $20,000; Ama Ray: $20,000; Champ's Ole': $20,000; Suspicious Caper: $20,000; Montana Banana: $20,000

Pgm Horse Win Place Show Total WPS Pool: $284,453
2 Clever Coed 7.40 4.60 3.00
3 Tidy Step 19.00 7.20
9 Tender Teen 3.40

Wager Type Winning Numbers Payoff Pool Carryover
$1 Pick 3 1-4/8-2 (3 correct) 99.20 65,431
$2 Daily Double 8-2 21.40 26,445
$1 Exacta 2-3 83.20 193,534
$2 Quinella 2-3 126.00 17,872
$1 Superfecta 2-3-9-10 3,678.00 92,740
$1 Trifecta 2-3-9 450.30 211,774

Pgm Comment
2 Clever Coed: chased, bit off rail,came out turn,5wd into lane,lugged in,held
3 Tidy Step: unhurried early, inside move turn, split horses late,just missed
9 Tender Teen: angled in, dueled, inside, inched away 1/8,bit off rail,held 3rd
10 Shes a Freebie: speed, angled in, dueled, 2 wide, weakened final furlong
1 La Bella Reina: stalked pace, inside, came out turn, 3 wide into lane, weakened
4 Zodiaque: stalked pace, btwn foes, 2 wide, 4 wide into lane, weakened
5 Ama Ray: chased, btwn foes, bit off rail,came out into lane, no rally
7 Champ's Ole': settled, outside, 4 wide 3/8,3wd into lane, no threat
6 Suspicious Caper: chased, between horses, dropped back, off rail, gave way
8 Montana Banana: stalked pace, outside, dropped back, broke down into lane
Footnotes
CLEVER COED chased a bit off the rail, moved up on the turn, came out leaving the bend and five wide into the stretch, rallied to a short lead outside in deep stretch while lugging in and just held. TIDY STEP unhurried a bit off the rail early, moved up inside on the turn and into the stretch, came out a bit and split foes with a late surge to just miss. TENDER TEEN angled in and dueled inside, inched away in midstretch, fought back a bit off the rail and bested the others. SHES A FREEBIE angled in and dueled outside a rival until nearly midstretch, then weakened. LA BELLA REINA stalked the pace inside, came out leaving the turn and three deep into the stretch and also weakened. ZODIAQUE stalked between horses then outside a rival, came out leaving the turn and four wide into the stretch and lacked a further response. AMA RAY chased between horses then a bit off the rail, came out into the stretch and did not rally. CHAMP'S OLE' settled outside, went four wide leaving the backstretch and into the turn, came three deep into the stretch and was not a threat. SUSPICIOUS CAPER chased between horses then dropped back on the backstretch, continued off the rail on the turn and gave way. MONTANA BANANA stalked outside, dropped back on the turn and broke down nearing the stretch

Owners: 2 - Baneth, Phil and Sherman, Art, 3 -Henry Moreno, 9 - Miller, Tom and Wade, 10 - Huston or Grover or Lane, 1 -Charles Arlington, 4 -Robert Hersh, 5 - Eriksen, Alan, Moger, Jr., Ed and Moresco, Richard, 7 - Bartsch, Capehart and Dutton Stables, 6 - Haras El Palenque and McNeil, Earl, 8 -Jason Wood
Trainers: 2 -Art Sherman, 3 -Henry Moreno, 9 -Ted H. West, 10 -Robert B. Hess, Jr., 1 -Robert A. Bean, 4 -Dan L. McFarlane, 5 -Ed Moger, Jr., 7 -Jerry Dutton, 6 -A. C. Avila, 8 -Doug O'Neill

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After visiting thier site , and reading thier rules and pay-outs I now remember why I said to myself I would never wager a race there . Its in black and white as big as NYC , and it stinks !

I would recommend you open a account with U.S. Offtrack , simobet.com or this forums backer TCB , I know for a fact US & simo pay full track payouts " Every Single Race " without fail and are required by law to do such. U.S. Off is run by the state of Oregon and very reputable plus offers everything right down to electronic transfers if asked and for nothing also . 450.30 is what you would have gotten from either one .

Sorry , and it goes to show you the ole " Read the fine print " ..... I would be pissed to , but its better than hitting a super for 2000.00 and then finding out :confused:

G.L.

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**MemphisMafia** · 06-10-2004, 09:11 PM

Re: my 2 cents

Originally posted by ************
Some books only pay 50-1 on exotics.
You have to know what you are getting into before you bet.
This is not unheard of

How True

G.L.

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**Big Country 5** · 06-10-2004, 09:39 PM

MMM

Thanks for the info.It's just another case of assuming something.I'll check into one of the books you said.Thanks again for all your help.