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  • Breaking Down The 2012 Kentucky Derby

    The field has been announced. Over the next 2 days I'll break down the field to a few contenders and hopefully 1 winner. Sometimes, the best horse wins the Kentucky Derby. But more often than not, the horse with the biggest Beyer numbers, most attention from the public waltzes into Churchill Downs and beaten because of his pedigree, preparation or the bad luck that comes with being favored. There are several trends that I have taken note over the years that have held their own where I can confidently eliminate pretenders. So with that said, let’s get to it. Here is the field.

    No Horse
    1 Daddy Long Legs
    2 Optimizer
    3 Take Charge Indy
    4 Union Rags
    5 Dullahan
    6 Bodemeister
    7 Rousing Sermon
    8 Creative Cause
    9 Trinniberg
    10 Daddy Nose Best
    11 Alpha
    12 Prospective
    13 Went the Day Well
    14 Hansen
    15 Gemologist
    16 El Padrino
    17 Done Talking
    18 Sabercat
    19 I'll Have Another
    20 Liaison
    AE My Adonis

    The 1st set of criteria is to eliminate any horse whose last prep race was not 1 1/8th mile or more. The 1 ¼ mile distance is a lot to ask for a horse stretching out for the 1st time. No derby winner has overcome it dating back the last 20 years. Throw out Trinniberg whose last race was at 7F and has never raced any further. No chance.
    2nd step and one of the most important is to throw out any horse that didn't finish 4th or better in its final prep race. Preferably 3rd or better. A horse who comes in to the race in bad form doesn't find it. Past history proves it. Dating back to 1962 no horse has finished worse than 4th in its final prep race and has worn the roses. We can safely eliminate #2 Optimizer (9th Arkansas Derby), #12 Prospective (6th Bluegrass Stakes), #20 Liason (6th SA Derby), and My Adonis from the AE (7th Wood Memorial).
    2011 Animal Kingdom Spiral 1st 2010 Super Saver Arkansas Derby 2nd
    2009 Mine That Bird Sunland Derby 4th
    2008 Big Brown Florida Derby 1st
    2007 Street Sense Blue Grass 2nd
    2006 Barbaro Florida Derby 1st
    2005 Giacomo Santa Anita D 4th
    2004 Smarty Jones Arkansas Derby 1st
    2003 Funny Cide Wood Mememorial 2nd
    2002 War Emblem Illinois Derby 1st
    2001 Monarchos Wood Memorial 2nd
    2000 Fus. Pegasus Wood Memorial 1st
    1999 Charismatic Lexington 1st
    1998 Real Quiet Santa Anita D 2nd
    1997 Silver Charm Santa Anita D 2nd
    1996 Grindstone Arkansas Derby 2nd
    1995 Thunder Gulch Blue Grass 4th
    1994 Go for Gin Wood Memorial 2nd
    1993 Sea Hero Blue Grass 4th
    1992 Lil E. Tee Arkansas Derby 2nd
    1991 Strike the Gold Blue Grass 1st
    1990 Unbridled Blue Grass 3rd
    1989 Sunday Silence Santa Anita Derby 1st
    1988 Winning Colors Santa Anita Derby 1st
    1987 Alysheba Blue Grass 3rd
    1986 Ferdinand Santa Anita Derby 3rd
    1985 Spend a Buck Garden State 1st
    1984 Swale Lexington 2nd
    1983 Sunny's Halo Arkansas Derby 1st
    1982 Gato Del Sol Blue Grass 2nd
    1981 Pleasant Colony Wood Memorial 1st
    1980 Genuine Risk Wood Memorial 3rd
    1979 Spectacular Bid Blue Grass 1st
    1978 Affirmed Hollywood Derby 1st
    1977 Seattle Slew Wood Memorial 1st
    1976 Bold Forbes Wood Memorial 1st
    1975 Foolish Pleasure Wood Memorial 1st
    1974 Cannonade CD Allowance 1st
    1973 Secretariat Wood Memorial 3rd
    1972 Riva Ridge Blue Grass 1st
    1971 Canonero II Venezuela 3rd
    1970 Dust Commander Blue Grass 1st
    1969 Majestic Prince CD Allowance 1st
    1968 Forward Pass Blue Grass 1st
    1967 Proud Clarion Blue Grass 2nd
    1966 Kauai King Gov. Gold Cup 1st
    1965 Lucky Debonair Blue Grass 1st
    1964 Northern Dancer Blue Grass 1st
    1963 Chateaugay Blue Grass 1st
    1962 Decidedly Blue Grass 2nd
    No Horse
    1 Daddy Long Legs

    3 Take Charge Indy
    4 Union Rags
    5 Dullahan
    6 Bodemeister
    7 Rousing Sermon
    8 Creative Cause

    10 Daddy Nose Best
    11 Alpha

    13 Went the Day Well
    14 Hansen
    15 Gemologist
    16 El Padrino
    17 Done Talking
    18 Sabercat
    19 I'll Have Another





    Next set of criteria is to throw out any horse who didn't win a race at the age of 2. Late bloomers rarely win the derby because they lose out on the maturing process. We can eliminate #6 Bodemeister, #13 Went the Day Well. Bodemesiter, the morning line favorite, will try to become the first Derby winner in the last 130 years that was unraced at age two. No thanks.
    The next set of criteria specifies that in either of his or her last two starts before the Kentucky Derby, the horse must have been first or second with a furlong to go. This very important because 47 of the last 49 Kentucky Derby winners were first or second with a furlong remaining in the Derby, the two exceptions being Grindstone in 1996 and Giacomo in 2005. Grindstone won the Kentucky Derby after being fourth with a furlong to go. Giacomo won the roses after being sixth at the eighth pole. Eliminate #7 Rousing Sermon, #17 Done Talking, #18 Sabercat.
    Contenders:

    No Horse
    1 Daddy Long Legs

    3 Take Charge Indy
    4 Union Rags
    5 Dullahan


    8 Creative Cause

    10 Daddy Nose Best
    11 Alpha


    14 Hansen
    15 Gemologist
    16 El Padrino


    19 I'll Have Another

    From here points will be added to the list of 11 contenders.
    Give a point to any horse that won a mile or longer race as a 2 year old. (Daddy Long Legs, Union Rags, Dullahan, Creative Cause, Daddy Nose Best, Hansen, Gemologist, El Padrino)
    Next is to give a point to any horse which ran one of its best 2 Beyer speed figures in its last race. This is a big knock if the horse did not. A horse needs to be in top form to win the Kentucky Derby. (Daddy Long Legs, Take Charge Indy, Dullahan, Daddy Nose Best, Alpha, Gemologist, I’ll have Another
    Give points to horses which raced against graded stakes competition prior to April as a 3 year old. Reason: battle tested. (Take Charge Indy, Union Rags, Dullahan, Creative Cause, Daddy Nose Best, Alpha, Hansen, El Padrino, I’ll Have Another)
    Give points to horses with a graded stakes win. Shows class. (Take Charge Indy, Union Rags, Dullahan, Creative Cause, Daddy Nose Best, Alpha, Hansen, Gemologist, El Padrino, I’ll have Another)
    Next the horses finish position in both of his or her last two races before the Derby was no worse than his or her running position at the eighth pole. This shows a horse that does not like to be passed coming down the stretch. (Daddy Long Legs, Union Rags, Dullahan, Creative Cause, Daddy Nose Best, Alpha, Gemologist, El Padrino, I’ll Have Another)
    The majority of past derby winners have had 5 or 4 points.
    5 points – Dullahan, Daddy Nose Best
    4 points – Union Rags, Creative Cause, Alpha, Gemologist, El Padrino, I’ll have Another, Take Charge Indy
    No horse has added or removed blinkers the race prior to the derby and come out victorious. Throw out Creative Cause. Only 5 winners of the Kentucky Derby in the last 71 years have had a dosage index above 4. You can throw out Dullahan with a DI of 4.2.
    Now I want to rank my contenders from top to last base on their 2nd best Beyer speed figure. We’re not looking for a horse that has only run 1 competitive race. We want a horse with a good competitive foundation that’s run 2 competitive races. The Kentucky
    Derby is a very demanding race and rarely can a horse win it without at least 2 strong efforts prior to the race.

    El Padrino (98)
    Gemologist (95)
    I’ll Have Another (95)
    Union Rags (95)
    Take Charge Indy (95)
    Daddy Nose Best (93)
    Alpha (92)
    Beyer numbers have a lot of variance. I like to consider any horse within 5 Beyer points of the leader. So throw out Alpha. Now we’re getting down to the nitty and gritty. I can see any of these 6 taking it. I don’t like the fact that El Padrino finished 4th last race. Last race performance is really important. Only Giacomo, Sea Hero, and Mine That Bird have finished 4th coming into the derby and have won. All the others have been 3rd or better. I’ll throw out I’ll have Another based on O’Neil not having any Derby success, a jockey with no derby history, and a horse with not much racing experience.
    Were down to 4. Now I’m going to look at Beyer numbers from the last race.
    Take Charge Indy (95)
    Union Rags (93)
    Daddy Nose Best (100)
    Gemologist (98)
    Throw out Union Rags. I’m not going to throw anyone of Gemologist if you like him, but he really wasn’t tested till the Wood where he won by a nose. He is lightly raced and I think he will have it tough today.
    I will be making Dutch win bets on #3 Take Charge Indy, and #10 Daddy Nose Best. I like the latter a little bit better.
    MLB (2014): (3-4) -.9 units

  • #2
    Thanks Weazel! Always love your breakdown at Derby time

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    • #3
      Good luck Weazel
      2012 - 2013 NCAAF

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      2012 - 2013 NFL

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      • #4
        nice breakdown and write up....gl with the final picks of

        Take Charge Indy and Daddy Nose Best


        Don't make me go Cajun on your Ass!

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