Senate Rejects Bid to Raise Minimum Wage

[TwoTonTony]

[QUOTE=BettorsChat]

LMFAO Big business control these Politicans with lobbyist and big $ campaign money. And have you seen the polls? Most people don't even vote.

I agree they don't, but that is how they are elected.......Big Business does control politicians....My point is that it is Domestic big business that has far more influence than overseas BB......

[winner]

If I had to charge most would leave as they want shit for free. Just like the service plays.

So the market would dictate how you do business?

[TwoTonTony]

all of my employees make far above minimum wage......and if they fuck up they get the cattle prod!!!

[TwoTonTony]

So the market would dictate how you do business?

I know you are a f'n repuiblican you bastard....

signed,

Monte

[cd329]

Tony,
you made my point for me, All of us in America have gotton spoiled and want more and more things, your not gonna change our society, as good an idea as it is, it will never happen. When i see kids 10 years old walking around with cellphones, it makes me sick.
Also its been proven that on a percentage basis the people with middle and lower class incomes donate more money to charities then the rich. Every rich person doesnt donate like bill gates and in fact most rich people are very greedy ith their money, thats why i said on an income based percentage, the rich give way less then the other classes.
You mention my firefighter job as being some over paid career with this cushy pension. Fact is i made a hell of lot more money when i was working construction, some years upwards of 100k, but i wanted to help people so left the construction field. Everything in life isnt about money.
Also i find it insulting, when people make firefighing as some kind of cake walk job. Its the second most stressful job in the world only the President of The United States has a more stressful job. That stat comes off the discoverey channel.
Also my career got ended because of a neck injury, which required a titanium cage put in where my disc was and i will require future surgeries. So please dont insult me like we skate thru our jobs and then get some cushy pension, because the last time i checked i have never seen a salesman have his career ended due to a neck injury, that is unless he fell asleep at his desk and then fell out of his chair.

[BettorsChat]

If someone doesn't like their lot in life, then change it. Get more training, go to school, intern, do whatever it takes. Not stand there and wait for the govt to give you something, or wait for a business to give you something. Add value to your company, and you should be rewarded. If skills are required for a better paying job, then get them. Does everyone get a raise based on inflation? Nope. Does everyone making minimun wage working a cash register deserve yearly raises tied to inflation? Nope.

My father worked for one company for 10 years and got 1 or 2 fucking raises. And I can tell you right now he busts his ass working at his job. He doesn't fuck off like most workers and he even carries others. And he's also been told by numerous employers and business that have did work for the companies that he worked for that he was damn good at what he does. So this shit about getting raises for how good you are doesn't always apply at all.

[BettorsChat]

i am in a managed balanaced portfolio.......No stocks all funds.......I was a cowboy in 1999/2000 and took a 150k beating...that was enough.....I like to be in control of how much i make......

Would never feel good about giving stock tips

You wouldn't be giving the picks then as your paid management would be. If they don't do good (they must be) then you wouldn't still be with them.

So basically post some stocks, mutual funds etc.

[BettorsChat]

[QUOTE=winner]

So the government puts a tariff on to keep jobs local. Now tee-shirts are all made in the USA. These tee-shirts now cost twice as much. Tee shirt sales go down b/c of price. Tee shirt companies lay off employees b/c no sales. Higher unemployment, less money in economy, and now material providers are losing jobs b/c they can't sell product to make shirts, truckers lose jobs b/c no tee-shirts to deliver, cashiers lose jobs b/c nothing to ring up. Is that correct?


Could you explain that further on how I'm wrong, or are you just another person with "feelings" but not that common sense most people lack?

No, you missed my point completely

Tariffs aren't going to double the cost of goods. You're making a lot of assumptions like normal.

Can the Republicans do no wrong?

[BettorsChat]

many wealthy people donate money.....alot more than middle class......but it only stands to reason.....I am not talking about a few well known people......Business owners of all kinds donate money....Pick up any little league book, high school scoreboard.....it is always donated by someone with wealth.....

that is for the benefit of the community.....Let's not get silly Monte!!!

I agree there is a lot of fat in the gov't...Always has been and always will be

Don't even get me started on donating of money. You can believe what you want too believe.

[winner]

My father worked for one company for 10 years and got 1 or 2 fucking raises. And I can tell you right now he busts his ass working at his job. He doesn't fuck off like most workers and he even carries others. And he's also been told by numerous employers and business that have did work for the companies that he worked for that he was damn good at what he does. So this shit about getting raises for how good you are doesn't always apply at all.

I agree it doesn't apply to all, nothing does. But if he's that marketable, go somewhere else and get paid what he's worth. If he's in an area that doesn't have a lot of jobs in that field, move or adapt in another business. If he's been screwed over for 10 years, isn't he partially to blame for staying with them and bitching about it?

[BettorsChat]

[QUOTE=winner]

So have I, but you haven't been able to answer any of the questions posed to you. Looking forward to the next lefty-link!!

Next lefty link may be me hitting the ban button

[BettorsChat]

[QUOTE=TwoTonTony]

who care what he is when we are talking policy.....the issue should stand on its/your own merits without concern for party affiliation......You just love that fight......you are good at it!!

LOL It's not about fighting its about right and wrong with me. I try to sit in the middle of the fence and look at the facts from both sides then make my decision. This clown always sits on the right side that can do no wrong.

[BettorsChat]

[QUOTE=TwoTonTony]

I agree they don't, but that is how they are elected.......Big Business does control politicians....My point is that it is Domestic big business that has far more influence than overseas BB......

And if there were campaign contribution total limits things may be different as you may not see as many (lol) selling out to big companies for bigger campaign $

[winner]

[QUOTE=BettorsChat]

No, you missed my point completely

Tariffs aren't going to double the cost of goods. You're making a lot of assumptions like normal.

Can the Republicans do no wrong?

You want a tax on all goods made overseas correct? I used double as an example. But whatever the tariff is will be passed on to the end user. And it will have ripple affects. Ask all the steel mill employees how those tariffs have worked out.
Like Tony said, you just want to argue and bash Republicans, when it hasn't even been mentioned in this thread. Whine, whine, whine.

[BettorsChat]

So the market would dictate how you do business?

The market may have nothing to do with it if you I mean Republicans get there way about wagering.