I am a union electrican single at moment and do believe in the democrates what has ever a repub ever dune for the middle class not manny but the other side has dune much more
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Originally posted by umreb78 View PostThe fiscal problem we have is a SPENDING problem...not a revenue problem. When the government quits pissing away MY money on bullshit programs that serve THEIR interests, talk to me about a tax hike. Until then, screw any tax increase.
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[QUOTE=BigWeiner;1967053] I say give him 8 years and lets see what happens, by then hopefully the Repubs can come up with someone better than Donald Trump. I would bet anything if the economy turns around in this 8 years, the Repubs will making up a bunch of bull about how they were responsible.
I'm scared to say, and call me crazy, but i don't think we'll ever get back to those days we once saw. We live in this fictitious world that nothing is real, we are currently spending trillions to just "say things are ok" but guess what, what happens when we start paying our debts, what happens when china stops buying our debt, i mean the list of what this gov't has done is endless.
We live in a world where we once thought the right thing to do is invest in the 401k, earnings really meant something, and the dream of retiring was a live and real.
Now we find out that it's really just a big ponzie sch, we have the CEO of the nasdeq start one of the biggest ponzie sch (bernie madoff) we just have a former Goldman sach CEO (jon corzine) bring down a firm (MF global)that had roots from the 1783, we have hank paulson bring down bear sterns and lehman brothers cuz GS biggest competitors were those two, and now we have not only greece's/europes that we think just printing will solve all problems. China is building cities that NO ONE lives in ( China's empty city - 10 Nov 09 - YouTube ) but yet we our FED reserve chairman is not applauding for people to save money in their bank account, but is trying to insist that people should spend money they don't have.
There are probably a handful of politicians that are out in the best interest of the public, ron paul, paul ryan and chris christie to name a few, everyone else is either tied to the banking systems or is out to get paybacks.
You don't prosper when just like umreb78 said, that GE doesn't pay taxes, we have Transocean head quarters in Zug Switzerland but has 1 person working there to fudge the tax code, you have companies leaving the US cuz there is no insentive to stay here and finally you have a Cell phone/computer company has the largest market share over Exxon mobile, things are just out of wack.
I have no clue what it's going to take to get us out of the problem, but i sure am not expecting this to be turned around in a couple years but i'm looking easily 8-10 years out. We have bigger problems and they are only getting worse, but every person is scared to know the real problems, or they just don't want to know the facts and just expect the gov't to fix the problem without knowing what is really going on behind the scene.
Just my 2 cents and i'm the minority of this view, but no way anyone can tell me differenct, cuz i know the "black monday" or some major event is on the horizon, don't know when, but just know it will happen and everyone will be left out dry saying "i thought things were ok, i've been lied to"
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[QUOTE=Watchtower76;1967061]Originally posted by BigWeiner View PostI say give him 8 years and lets see what happens, by then hopefully the Repubs can come up with someone better than Donald Trump. I would bet anything if the economy turns around in this 8 years, the Repubs will making up a bunch of bull about how they were responsible.
I'm scared to say, and call me crazy, but i don't think we'll ever get back to those days we once saw. We live in this fictitious world that nothing is real, we are currently spending trillions to just "say things are ok" but guess what, what happens when we start paying our debts, what happens when china stops buying our debt, i mean the list of what this gov't has done is endless.
We live in a world where we once thought the right thing to do is invest in the 401k, earnings really meant something, and the dream of retiring was a live and real.
Now we find out that it's really just a big ponzie sch, we have the CEO of the nasdeq start one of the biggest ponzie sch (bernie madoff) we just have a former Goldman sach CEO (jon corzine) bring down a firm (MF global)that had roots from the 1783, we have hank paulson bring down bear sterns and lehman brothers cuz GS biggest competitors were those two, and now we have not only greece's/europes that we think just printing will solve all problems. China is building cities that NO ONE lives in ( China's empty city - 10 Nov 09 - YouTube ) but yet we our FED reserve chairman is not applauding for people to save money in their bank account, but is trying to insist that people should spend money they don't have.
There are probably a handful of politicians that are out in the best interest of the public, ron paul, paul ryan and chris christie to name a few, everyone else is either tied to the banking systems or is out to get paybacks.
You don't prosper when just like umreb78 said, that GE doesn't pay taxes, we have Transocean head quarters in Zug Switzerland but has 1 person working there to fudge the tax code, you have companies leaving the US cuz there is no insentive to stay here and finally you have a Cell phone/computer company has the largest market share over Exxon mobile, things are just out of wack.
I have no clue what it's going to take to get us out of the problem, but i sure am not expecting this to be turned around in a couple years but i'm looking easily 8-10 years out. We have bigger problems and they are only getting worse, but every person is scared to know the real problems, or they just don't want to know the facts and just expect the gov't to fix the problem without knowing what is really going on behind the scene.
Just my 2 cents and i'm the minority of this view, but no way anyone can tell me differenct, cuz i know the "black monday" or some major event is on the horizon, don't know when, but just know it will happen and everyone will be left out dry saying "i thought things were ok, i've been lied to"
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Weiner...Appreciate your comments, but...take a look at two new topics I posted today...one on the unemployment rate that is a complete fraud and the other on inflation and the desctruction of the dollar. Whiel in real numbers the dow and NASDAQ appear to be doing well right now, what is the benefit of an market rise of 8 percent when REAL inflation (i.e., food and energy (gas) neither of which are included in the government issued inflation index (CPI)) is over 12 percent...Before attacking that statement. see the post on real inflation. Thanks guys
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