Obama Has Now Increased Debt More than All Presidents from George Washington Through

[10DimeBry]

I could careless about who's to blame for what, but wouldn't everybody agree that any debt for the Wars is Bush's responsibility regardless of who came into office after him?

from 2007 thru 2010 Dems controlled house and senate...... I ask you in the past 3 years is our country better or worse than the decade prior?

[vols fan]

from 2007 thru 2010 Dems controlled house and senate...... I ask you in the past 3 years is our country better or worse than the decade prior?

It takes common sense to see that Dimer. Most dems don't have that.

[Watchtower76]

Not really. What really had to be done, was "throwing" money into the economy, otherwise things would've been a lot worse. Tons of money was wasted and put in the wrong places, that's another topic all together, but that still had to be done. The War didn't didn't do shit, but waste a ton of money that we needed for other things. You must think we have invaded Iran too, right?

hope you were kidding BW....

So throwing money into the economy did what? saved us from what, oh the world ending....that's right cuz our f'n gov't told us so..... wrong, matter of fact it was to save the over levereged f'n banks and all the goldmen sachs fn friends...

Why do you think we just bailed out europe, to save another disaster cuz the banks are exactly leveraged like MF global, of course...and of course


The reason why we are bailing out everyone has all to do with the equity markets...retail investors shun the equity market in its entirety as it is anything but "fair and efficient" in which frontrunning for a select few is legal, in which insider trading is permitted for politicians and is masked as "expert networks" for others, in which the government itself leaks information to a hand-picked elite of the wealthiest investors, in which investment banks send out their "huddle" top picks to "whale" accounts before everyone else gets access, in which hedge funds form "clubs" and collude in moving the market, in which millisecond algorithms make instantaneous decisions which regular investors can never hope to beat, in which daily record volatility triggers sell limits virtually assuring daytrading losses, and where the bid/ask spreads for all but the choicest few make the prospect of breaking even, let alone winning, quite daunting. In short: a rigged casino

this is why we are throwing money....they are putting it on the taxpayers and saying, we needed to bail them out else we could test the 2008 lows....F"N BULLSH**

[BigWeiner]

Dimer you know how politics work don't try to convince me Halliburton rumsfield and bush just went along with congress.

[Watchtower76]

I could careless about who's to blame for what, but wouldn't everybody agree that any debt for the Wars is Bush's responsibility regardless of who came into office after him?

BW....please explain why obama's already has spend 5 trillion and bush didn't do that in 8 years?

What has obama done, please tell me something he has done with 5 trillion dollars?

It's amazing how someone can spend that much and have NOTHING to show for it...

[BigWeiner]

hope you were kidding BW....

So throwing money into the economy did what? saved us from what, oh the world ending....that's right cuz our f'n gov't told us so..... wrong, matter of fact it was to save the over levereged f'n banks and all the goldmen sachs fn friends...

Why do you think we just bailed out europe, to save another disaster cuz the banks are exactly leveraged like MF global, of course...and of course


The reason why we are bailing out everyone has all to do with the equity markets...retail investors shun the equity market in its entirety as it is anything but "fair and efficient" in which frontrunning for a select few is legal, in which insider trading is permitted for politicians and is masked as "expert networks" for others, in which the government itself leaks information to a hand-picked elite of the wealthiest investors, in which investment banks send out their "huddle" top picks to "whale" accounts before everyone else gets access, in which hedge funds form "clubs" and collude in moving the market, in which millisecond algorithms make instantaneous decisions which regular investors can never hope to beat, in which daily record volatility triggers sell limits virtually assuring daytrading losses, and where the bid/ask spreads for all but the choicest few make the prospect of breaking even, let alone winning, quite daunting. In short: a rigged casino

this is why we are throwing money....they are putting it on the taxpayers and saying, we needed to bail them out else we could test the 2008 lows....F"N BULLSH**

I agree it is bullshit, fuck the govt, we're all getting screwed. So what do we do, vote in Michelle Bachman? This is our shitty system, it sucks

[Watchtower76]

Dimer you know how politics work don't try to convince me Halliburton rumsfield and bush just went along with congress.

Well i don't think that even sniffs to the amount that hank paulson and this admin has done for all the f'n bankers...

[Watchtower76]

I agree it is bullshit, fuck the govt, we're all getting screwed. So what do we do, vote in Michelle Bachman? This is our shitty system, it sucks

RON PAUL....pretty f'n simple there

[BigWeiner]

RON PAUL....pretty f'n simple there

Im with you, but you know he has no chance, so now what?

[BigWeiner]

BW....please explain why obama's already has spend 5 trillion and bush didn't do that in 8 years?

What has obama done, please tell me something he has done with 5 trillion dollars?

It's amazing how someone can spend that much and have NOTHING to show for it...

10 people didnt lose their homes. Look I'm not happy with the current situation, I'm just worried about some of the alternatives. I think the economy will slowely come around and Obama will get 4 more years so I'm hoping things workout. I don't bash people because they're repubs or dems, I think that's retarded. Both parties are lame. How about a smart conservative fuck that doesn't believe in big govt, but doesn't think all middle easterners are al queda. There's some real ignorant bastards in this country.

[Watchtower76]

10 people didnt lose their homes. Look I'm not happy with the current situation, I'm just worried about some of the alternatives. I think the economy will slowely come around and Obama will get 4 more years so I'm hoping things workout. I don't bash people because they're repubs or dems, I think that's retarded. Both parties are lame. How about a smart conservative fuck that doesn't believe in big govt, but doesn't think all middle easterners are al queda. There's some real ignorant bastards in this country.

Very well said BW, i totally agree with everything other then giving obama 4 more years....THings in the county are falling so fast, and obama's ONLY way (as of now) to brainwash our country is to print more money and go further in debt, well guess what, I can give 5 trillion to any person in the govt, and i bet they'd spend it in different places then where its going right now, and that's the problem.

If obama had a 1 IQ, i'd think that using the money and giving it back to the PEOPLE/TAXPAYERS would make people happier then watching them bail out f'n europe/all the banks, that we should have NO TIES too, but in reality it's the taxpayers who will be footing this bill, that's what's b.s....

This gov't is too big and you want to know what, people who live in MN didn't think Jesse "the body" Ventura wouldn't win the govener in 1998, but guess what he did...not saying he was good, but he won...

Don't say Ron Paul can't win, cuz if people start talking about him, why can't he?

[Watchtower76]

Just wish Paul Ryan or Jeff Cristy would be running

[10DimeBry]

Dimer you know how politics work don't try to convince me Halliburton rumsfield and bush just went along with congress.

do you know who the biggest investor in halliburton was?

John Kerry. Democrat.

[BigWeiner]

do you know who the biggest investor in halliburton was?

John Kerry. Democrat.

In that case, John Kerry made the call that we went to war. Cheney was just along for the ride, like Rumsfeld and Bush. Damn congress.

[10DimeBry]

In that case, John Kerry made the call that we went to war. Cheney was just along for the ride, like Rumsfeld and Bush. Damn congress.

NO.....all im saying is get your facts straight. you throw bush rumsfeld Cheney around like nothing, yet you clearly fail to mention Kerry. Maybe you didnt know that. If that's the case then fine.