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**kbsooner21** · 10-03-2011, 10:20 PM

How about your boy Obama going to stand back and do nothing as Boeing threatens to move 6k jobs overseas because the pussy ass labor unions don't want Boeing to move from Washington (labor state) to North Carolina (right to work state)

You would think he'd tell the Labor Union to back the fuck off and let the 6k jobs stay in the U.S. but it hasn't been done yet...

**wayne1218** · 10-03-2011, 11:03 PM

Since when has Obama EVER cared about jobs kb? He was sworn in Jan. 20th, 2009 and look at the rates of unemployment going forward since then. He doesn't give 2 shits about jobs. He can talk the talk but numbers don't lie ........

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4
2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.7 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 4.9 5.4 5.6 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.8 7.3
2009 7.8 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.5 9.7 9.8 10.1 9.9 9.9
2010 9.7 9.7 9.7 9.8 9.6 9.5 9.5 9.6 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.4
2011 9.0 8.9 8.8 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.1 9.1

**kbsooner21** · 10-03-2011, 11:07 PM

Wow!!! I knew it was bad, but that is absolutely ridiculous!

Incredible

I'm sure it's Bush's fault somehow though

**kbsooner21** · 10-03-2011, 11:08 PM

Let me ask a question, and I'm dead serious here.

Is there really that much job loss, or are more people able to "work" the system with Obama in office?

**BettorsChat** · 10-04-2011, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by kbsooner21 View Post

How about your boy Obama going to stand back and do nothing as Boeing threatens to move 6k jobs overseas because the pussy ass labor unions don't want Boeing to move from Washington (labor state) to North Carolina (right to work state)

You would think he'd tell the Labor Union to back the fuck off and let the 6k jobs stay in the U.S. but it hasn't been done yet...

He could tell them that, but it wouldn't mean anything.
First you have to get the bill in Congress then subcommittees then Senate subcommittees then the Senate.

A President can promise all kinds of things, but he must be able to get it passed through the above BS before he can sign it.

**BettorsChat** · 10-04-2011, 02:10 AM

First in stead of blaming let's sign the damn petitions and make the calls to our local Government officials. They are the ones that have to pass it to get it too Obama. However, it pisses me off that Obama is entertaining this bullshit bill.

**KazDog** · 10-04-2011, 04:25 AM

Originally posted by kbsooner21 View Post

Wow!!! I knew it was bad, but that is absolutely ridiculous!

Incredible

I'm sure it's Bush's fault somehow though

You're outraged that it's risen from 7.8% to 9.1%? A 1.3% increase since he took office? But the fact that it went from a 31 year low of 4% to almost double of 7.8% during Bush's 8 years didn't bother you in the least? Like that didn't factor in the depression we're in?

KAZ

**wayne1218** · 10-04-2011, 09:13 AM

That's funny kaz. It never hit 8 in the previous 10 years before his term and 9 to 10 has been the norm ever since he took office. Amazes me that even you can't look at that and say its not good, without excuses.

**kbsooner21** · 10-04-2011, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by wayne1218 View Post

That's funny kaz. It never hit 8 in the previous 10 years before his term and 9 to 10 has been the norm ever since he took office. Amazes me that even you can't look at that and say its not good, without excuses.

**kbsooner21** · 10-04-2011, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by kbsooner21 View Post

I'm sure it's Bush's fault somehow though

Can't say I'm shocked by Kaz's comments!

**KazDog** · 10-04-2011, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by wayne1218 View Post

That's funny kaz. It never hit 8 in the previous 10 years before his term and 9 to 10 has been the norm ever since he took office. Amazes me that even you can't look at that and say its not good, without excuses.

Is it good? No. Is it alarming? No. It's risen 1.3% and has been nearly the same for his term. To say he hasn't tried to bring it down, is ridiculous. I gave several reasons why it isn't moving. And until companies are penalized for outsourcing, it's not gonna change. Too many jobs are lost oversees.

Now, going from a 31 year low and pretty much doubling during his term. That's alarming and that's still why we're in the mess we're in today.

**Watchtower76** · 10-04-2011, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by KazDog View Post

Is it good? No. Is it alarming? No. It's risen 1.3% and has been nearly the same for his term. To say he hasn't tried to bring it down, is ridiculous. I gave several reasons why it isn't moving. And until companies are penalized for outsourcing, it's not gonna change. Too many jobs are lost oversees.

Now, going from a 31 year low and pretty much doubling during his term. That's alarming and that's still why we're in the mess we're in today.

It's baffling that you think it's only risen 1.3%....

How about how many people since obama took office that came off the unemployment hand outs?

How about spending trillions on job creation when really hasn't done shit to improve anything...

The problem that this gov't has done is spend money on something that you can't buy to get out of. HE should have taken office and said, times are going to be very hard for the upcoming years, i'm not going to sugar coat anything, but i'm going to help out the small buisness and anyone who has lost their jobs....

This entire world is falling hard, currently we are seeing bank of america falling lower then $6, but buffet is long so he's always right

We are currently seeing Morgan stanley CDS soar, but thank god jim cramer just came out and said they are fine, just like that idiot said bear sterns was fine Jim Cramer: "Bear Stearns is Fine!" Tues, 3/11/08 - YouTube

it only took 3 trillion in debt to get our stock market back to where it was before the crash for the greatest ponzie sch...America has now officially closed the books on the 2010-2011 fiscal year. It is only fitting that the last day of the year saw the settlement of all outstanding and recently auctioned off debt. The result: a surge of $95 billion in total government debt overnight, and a fiscal year closing with the absolutely unprecedented $14,790,340,328,557.15 in debt. Net net, in the past fiscal year, the US has issued a total of $1.228 trillion in new debt and has accelerated over time. At a rate of $125 billion per month, total US debt to GDP will pass 100% in just over a month. Incidentally, one may inquire about the benefits of centrally planned fiscal stimulus (cough Solyndra cough): the US economy added over 3$ trillion in debt in the past two years and the stock market is almost back to where it was back then

Oct 3, 2008: SPX=1099.23; VIX=45.14 is to Oct 3, 2011: SPX=1099.23; VIX=45.45

as

Oct. 10, 2008: SPX=899.22; VIX = 69.95 is to ....

For some strange reason Bank of America's site is down for the 3rd day in a row...HUMMM

but yet bernank will calm down everything and talk about Q3 and waste more money to save the stock market...

**wayne1218** · 10-04-2011, 01:47 PM

It has gone up 1.3 points kaz, not %

Check what % 1.3 of 7.8 is and that is the actual % it has risen under him.

**wayne1218** · 10-04-2011, 01:49 PM

Closer to 16.3% rise on his watch kaz

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