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  • Senate official: Wrong to link bin Laden, Geronimo

    WASHINGTON – The top staffer for the Senate Indian Affairs Committee is objecting to the U.S. military's use of the code name "Geronimo" for Osama bin Laden during the raid that killed the al-Qaida leader.

    Geronimo was an Apache leader in the 19th century who spent many years fighting the Mexican and U.S. armies until his surrender in 1886.

    Loretta Tuell, staff director and chief counsel for the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, said Tuesday it was inappropriate to link Geronimo, whom she called "one of the greatest Native American heroes," with one of the most hated enemies of the United States.

    "These inappropriate uses of Native American icons and cultures are prevalent throughout our society, and the impacts to Native and non-Native children are devastating," Tuell said.

    Tuell is a member of the Nez Perce tribe and grew on the tribe's reservation in Idaho. The Senate Indian Affairs panel had previously scheduled a hearing for Thursday on racial stereotypes of native people. Tuell said the use of Geronimo in the bin Laden raid will be discussed.

    Steven Newcomb, a columnist for the weekly newspaper Indian Country Today, criticized what he called a disrespectful use of a name revered by many Native Americans.

    "Apparently, having an African-American president in the White House is not enough to overturn the more than 200-year American tradition of treating and thinking of Indians as enemies of the United States," Newcomb wrote.

    After bin Laden was killed, the military sent a message back to the White House: "Geronimo EKIA" — enemy killed in action.

    "It's another attempt to label Native Americans as terrorists," said Paula Antoine of the Rosebud Sioux Tribe in South Dakota.
    A White House spokesman referred questions about the code name to the Pentagon. A Defense Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

    Jefferson Keel, president of National Congress of American Indians, the largest organization representing American Indians and Alaska Natives, said, "Osama bin Laden was a shared enemy."

    Keel said that since 2001, 77 American Indians and Alaskan Natives have died defending the U.S. in Afghanistan and Iraq. More than 400 have been wounded.

  • #2
    Give me a motherfucking break.

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    • #3
      They better not start using code words like "Ole" or "Lars" either or the "Sons of Norway" will be all over their ass too!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
        They better not start using code words like "Ole" or "Lars" either or the "Sons of Norway" will be all over their ass too!!!

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        • #5
          Always someone making a big fkng shit over nothing. Ridiculous.
          I don't understand some of these people that twist and turn every word into a derogatory issue or thing.

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          • #6
            Others who would be pissed if they used the following words:

            NIKE - all basketball players would be offended

            BAMBI - PETA would jump all over their asses

            WHOPPER - all Burger King eaters

            McGRIDDLE - all McDonald breakfast diners

            LEPRECHAN - all the Irish

            KEILBASA - all the polish

            SAUERKRAUT - all the germans

            CAPTAIN CRUNCH/FRUIT LOOP/COCOA PUFF/CHERRIO/ FROSTED FLAKE/APPLE JACK - all cereal eaters

            SNICKER/MILKY WAY/ REESE'S PIECES/ ALMOND JOY/ MOUNDS - candy lovers

            RAT/MOUSE/GOLDFISH/REPTILE/ALPO - pet store lovers
            He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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            • #7
              I can understand why the American Indian could find Bryces Avatar "Abusive and Offensive" (That's how the NCAA puts it anyway) But to find my Avatar "abusive and offensive' just makes no sense to me. Worst of all it was designed by an American Indian. So now the UND logo is dead.

              I remember when I was a kid, we use to yell Geronimo when we jumped off of diving boards. Don't remember why?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
                I can understand why the American Indian could find Bryces Avatar "Abusive and Offensive" (That's how the NCAA puts it anyway) But to find my Avatar "abusive and offensive' just makes no sense to me. Worst of all it was designed by an American Indian. So now the UND logo is dead.

                I remember when I was a kid, we use to yell Geronimo when we jumped off of diving boards. Don't remember why?
                I also paid tribute to the Indians. Every time I saw trash on the side of the highway, I shed a tear !!
                He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by insidethe8thpol View Post
                  I also paid tribute to the Indians. Every time I saw trash on the side of the highway, I shed a tear !!
                  LMAO, I remember that commercial!!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
                    I can understand why the American Indian could find Bryces Avatar "Abusive and Offensive" (That's how the NCAA puts it anyway) But to find my Avatar "abusive and offensive' just makes no sense to me. Worst of all it was designed by an American Indian. So now the UND logo is dead.

                    I remember when I was a kid, we use to yell Geronimo when we jumped off of diving boards. Don't remember why?
                    What do you say when you jump out of an airplane?

                    GERONIMO!

                    What does Geronimo say when he jumps out of an airplane???


                    Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.


                    Ok maybe a lame joke! It's the only one I can remember!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ToDaClub View Post
                      I can understand why the American Indian could find Bryces Avatar "Abusive and Offensive" (That's how the NCAA puts it anyway) But to find my Avatar "abusive and offensive' just makes no sense to me. Worst of all it was designed by an American Indian. So now the UND logo is dead.

                      I remember when I was a kid, we use to yell Geronimo when we jumped off of diving boards. Don't remember why?
                      Why is my avatar offensive. The guy is smiling and looks to be in a genuine good mood! Looks like he just got done brushing his teeth too!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by insidethe8thpol View Post
                        I also paid tribute to the Indians. Every time I saw trash on the side of the highway, I shed a tear !!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bryce View Post
                          Why is my avatar offensive. The guy is smiling and looks to be in a genuine good mood! Looks like he just got done brushing his teeth too!
                          I believe because its a Caricature. I'm basing that on the arguments I've heard here for the last 5 years. My biggest beef is if Indian Logo's are so offensive, why does every State of North Dakota Highway Dept vehicle have one, all state highway signs use an Indian head. Dakota is an Indian tribe, but when our university that represents the state wants to use it, they threaten to throw us out of the NCAA?


                          Shit, there goes my blood pressure.

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