Was 911 terrorists or our own government?

[Spark]

I am curious on how you guys think about this subject ...

[kbsooner21]

This is a fucking ridiculous question. No offense intended, but come the fuck on...

[Spark]

This is a fucking ridiculous question. No offense intended, but come the fuck on...

Why is it ridiculous??

[kbsooner21]

Why is it ridiculous??

Why the hell would our government kill 3-4k of innocent Americans on our on soil?

[jcheckers]

That question is dumber than asking a painter if he wants a beer.....

[flarendep1]

Are your asking:

Did our own government "Cause" it ( by our support of Israel for example) or "Planned" it as in we detontated our own buildings like some Libs think?


If the question is did we plan it?, then count me out of the discussion period because that is just ridiculous.


Is Rosie O'Donnell a member here??

[Spark]

Why the hell would our government kill 3-4k of innocent Americans on our on soil?

Kb, I agree it is very hard to believe ... I have friends that believe it was our government and I argue with them all the time ...

Now, saying that I want you to read the following ... read it with an open mind ... What happened to the parts of the plane?? What happened to the bodies that were on the plane?? What happened to all the Luggage?? Not a trace ... How about the way the buildings collapsed?? Like it was a demolition







There is strong evidence leaning both ways however I am still convinced it was our own government. First of all there was no debris at the crash site of United 93. Maybe a tiny bit but compare it to an average commercial airline crash. There would've been a lot more debris almost the whole plane had it been an average crash. Also it's completely obvious that the World Trade Centers were controlled demolitions because the towers fell nearly at free-fall speed and had it been a 'pancake' effect as people say it was it would've fallen a lot slower, 1 floor at a time not to mention there would still be beams in the center sticking up in the air. WTC 7 was on fire and collapsed with no collateral damage at all and when examining the debris the cuts on the beams were identical to those made on beams in controlled demolitions. Also I'm told that more than half of the 'supposed' hijackers are still alive to this day. And how would a 747 airliner get low enough to the ground to crash perfectly into the pentagon? Let's say a plane did hit the pentagon; Why is the crash site smaller than the actual size of a 747. Why won't the FBI release the security recordings of any of the near by buildings 9 years after? I believe it was a missile that hit the pentagon.

Normally if a pilot doesn't respond to the tower the guy at the tower is to report to his supervisor. The supervisor is supposed to contact a military officer who then sends out fighter jets to see whats going on. This entire process is supposed take approx. 10 minutes but in this case didn't happen for 80 minutes (1 hour and 20 minutes). Now the one thing that can completely contradict this being an inside job is the family members who talked to their loved ones on United 93. So was the United 93 hijackers no affiliated with the WTC/pentagon attacks and just coincidentally on the same day or what?
Ok lets sy Al-Quaeda did do it. Then howcome so many things 'happened' to go wrong with the defense system. How come FBI won't release security tapes. How come everyone ignores logic? Scientifically proven the WTCs would NOT have collapsed when hit by a single plane. The architect himself said the towers were specifically designed NOT to collapse if hit by a plane.
You guys all seem a lil slow to me cuz not a single question of mine has been answered. All you guys just say 'it was terrorists' without looking into or caring about the facts. I am not saying I am certain or I want to to be our govt cuz I don't. I want my questions answered not a bunch of retards saying stupid shit

[Spark]

That question is dumber than asking a painter if he wants a beer.....

[flarendep1]

Kb, I agree it is very hard to believe ... I have friends that believe it was our government and I argue with them all the time ...

Now, saying that I want you to read the following ... read it with an open mind ... What happened to the parts of the plane?? What happened to the bodies that were on the plane?? What happened to all the Luggage?? Not a trace ... How about the way the buildings collapsed?? Like it was a demolition

When a jet hits a structure or the ground at that high speed, 500mph plus in disintegrates everything from the impact and the heat generated. Those bodies, luggage, plane parts were cremated on impact. Scientists can explain it for you but if you are even believing this it probably wont change your mind.


There is strong evidence leaning both ways however I am still convinced it was our own government. First of all there was no debris at the crash site of United 93. Maybe a tiny bit but compare it to an average commercial airline crash. There would've been a lot more debris almost the whole plane had it been an average crash. The plane went into the ground nose first, straight in, not like a regular crash, the terrorist flying it did that purposely, dont you think? Again, this type of straight in collision with the ground would disinegrate everything. Also it's completely obvious that the World Trade Centers were controlled demolitions because the towers fell nearly at free-fall speed and had it been a 'pancake' effect as people say it was it would've fallen a lot slower, 1 floor at a time not to mention there would still be beams in the center sticking up in the air. This is ridiculous that you fall for this theory I guess we lew plane in and then set up a demolition team to finish it off :dontknow:

WTC 7 was on fire and collapsed with no collateral damage at all and when examining the debris the cuts on the beams were identical to those made on beams in controlled demolitions. Also I'm told that more than half of the 'supposed' hijackers are still alive to this day. And how would a 747 airliner get low enough to the ground to crash perfectly into the pentagon? Let's say a plane did hit the pentagon; Why is the crash site smaller than the actual size of a 747. Why won't the FBI release the security recordings of any of the near by buildings 9 years after? I believe it was a missile that hit the pentagon.

Normally if a pilot doesn't respond to the tower the guy at the tower is to report to his supervisor. The supervisor is supposed to contact a military officer who then sends out fighter jets to see whats going on. This entire process is supposed take approx. 10 minutes but in this case didn't happen for 80 minutes (1 hour and 20 minutes). Now the one thing that can completely contradict this being an inside job is the family members who talked to their loved ones on United 93. So was the United 93 hijackers no affiliated with the WTC/pentagon attacks and just coincidentally on the same day or what?
Ok lets sy Al-Quaeda did do it. Then howcome so many things 'happened' to go wrong with the defense system. How come FBI won't release security tapes. How come everyone ignores logic? Scientifically proven the WTCs would NOT have collapsed when hit by a single plane. The architect himself said the towers were specifically designed NOT to collapse if hit by a plane.
You guys all seem a lil slow to me cuz not a single question of mine has been answered. All you guys just say 'it was terrorists' without looking into or caring about the facts. I am not saying I am certain or I want to to be our govt cuz I don't. I want my questions answered not a bunch of retards saying stupid shit

There are a few answers for ya.

[flarendep1]

Spark,

What is the theory behind "why" the government would do this to itself? That attack killed our economy, remember??

[10DimeBry]

it was TY Gaston.....CODE ZEBRA CODE ZEBRA!!!!!!

[Spark]

Spark,

What is the theory behind "why" the government would do this to itself? That attack killed our economy, remember??

Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy

Submitted by Thomas Hargrove on Tue, 08/01/2006 - 14:33 National NewsNewsPolitics ShareThis By THOMAS HARGROVE
Scripps Howard News Service
More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.
The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.
Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

[jcheckers]

this being an inside job

Here's your inside job....

[Spark]

There is strong evidence leaning both ways however I am still convinced it was our own government. First of all there was no debris at the crash site of United 93. Maybe a tiny bit but compare it to an average commercial airline crash. There would've been a lot more debris almost the whole plane had it been an average crash. Also it's completely obvious that the World Trade Centers were controlled demolitions because the towers fell nearly at free-fall speed and had it been a 'pancake' effect as people say it was it would've fallen a lot slower, 1 floor at a time not to mention there would still be beams in the center sticking up in the air. WTC 7 was on fire and collapsed with no collateral damage at all and when examining the debris the cuts on the beams were identical to those made on beams in controlled demolitions. Also I'm told that more than half of the 'supposed' hijackers are still alive to this day. And how would a 747 airliner get low enough to the ground to crash perfectly into the pentagon? Let's say a plane did hit the pentagon; Why is the crash site smaller than the actual size of a 747. Why won't the FBI release the security recordings of any of the near by buildings 9 years after? I believe it was a missile that hit the pentagon.

Normally if a pilot doesn't respond to the tower the guy at the tower is to report to his supervisor. The supervisor is supposed to contact a military officer who then sends out fighter jets to see whats going on. This entire process is supposed take approx. 10 minutes but in this case didn't happen for 80 minutes (1 hour and 20 minutes). Now the one thing that can completely contradict this being an inside job is the family members who talked to their loved ones on United 93. So was the United 93 hijackers no affiliated with the WTC/pentagon attacks and just coincidentally on the same day or what?
Ok lets sy Al-Quaeda did do it. Then howcome so many things 'happened' to go wrong with the defense system. How come FBI won't release security tapes. How come everyone ignores logic? Scientifically proven the WTCs would NOT have collapsed when hit by a single plane. The architect himself said the towers were specifically designed NOT to collapse if hit by a plane.
You guys all seem a lil slow to me cuz not a single question of mine has been answered. All you guys just say 'it was terrorists' without looking into or caring about the facts. I am not saying I am certain or I want to to be our govt cuz I don't. I want my questions answered not a bunch of retards saying stupid shit

Let me clear things up. this was an e-mail I received from someone explaining why they say it was the government. I certainly did not write it!!!

I have been debating this with a few people the last few days and I wanted to throw it out on the site to get everyone's opinion. Very hard to convince me that it was not terrorists

[molta02]

anyone who thinks 9.11 was an inside job is a complete idiot, someone so stupid i wouldn't want to reason with them or even consider them a friend. out of all the stupid things i've ever heard, this will always take the cake.

that's like saying katrina was a government sanctioned hurricane ordered by bush. oh wait, the libs already do.