Leaked Memo Shows Obama Admin Conspiring to Implement Amnesty

[Jamaicanman]

As if more eveidence was needed confirming this president i s a piece of shit.



The leaked memo, entitled “Administrative Alternatives to Comprehensive Immigration Reform” is designed to “…reduce the threat of removal for certain individuals present in the United States without authorization.” In other words, to ensure that illegal immigrants will not be deported.

The amnesty plan outlined in the memo is designed to sidestep legislative action.

Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee this morning released the internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) memo obtained by Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

The release states:

One of the most outrageous proposals is to use DHS’ limited authority to grant deferred action on a broad basis. The memo proposes using deferred action (or inaction, as it is in practice) to allow certain individuals for whom “no relief appears available” to remain in the U.S. indefinitely and receive work authorization. This would give amnesty to millions of illegal workers.

“The document shows the Obama administration scheming to allow millions of illegal immigrants to stay and work in the United States,” Smith said. “The Obama administration is conspiring to implement amnesty without any Congressional action.”

Smith said that the Obama administration says one thing and does another promising border security and immigration enforcement yet sues Arizona for enforcing laws the administration says it is their right to enforce.

“But now we find out the truth: while saying one thing to the public, the Obama administration is scheming to ensure that immigration laws are not enforced!” Smith said.

Smith warned that it is Congress’ responsibility to enact law.

“How to deal with the millions of illegal immigrants in the country is a question for the people’s representatives in Congress and not for unaccountable federal bureaucrats,” Smith said. “This is an insult to millions of unemployed citizens and legal immigrants who have to compete with illegal immigrants for scarce jobs.”

“The Obama administration needs to stop its scheming and put American’s interests first,” Smith said.

[BOBBY5ACES]

didn't bush while he was at the helm wanting to do more or less the same -what were the republicans saying then...........................

[Jamaicanman]

didn't bush while he was at the helm wanting to do more or less the same -what were the republicans saying then...........................

I know he wanted a "pathway to citizenship" (amnesty) and why I have posted he was garbage on immigration. You could correct me though b/c I don't remember any memos being circulated that showed he was trying to do it w/o Congressional approval. I could be dead wrong though and await your info.

[vitterd]

Don't u find it silly that his comments say that obama doesn't want illegal immigrants deported and last week it was proven 400k illegals were deported last year. If he didn't want them deported as stated by republican lamar smith don't u think the number would be much lower.

I'm asking u to apply common sense here. While I see that is nearly impossible for you I am asking u to give it a try.

[Jamaicanman]

Don't u find it silly that his comments say that obama doesn't want illegal immigrants deported and last week it was proven 400k illegals were deported last year. If he didn't want them deported as stated by republican lamar smith don't u think the number would be much lower.

I'm asking u to apply common sense here. While I see that is nearly impossible for you I am asking u to give it a try.

So the memo is a fabrication? Stay on thread point.

And to answer your question for the 10th time, I (as well as others) don't think there is a correlation between deportation and enforcement. Out of your 400k example, how many were deportations due to jail terms expiring? How many were already in the system to be deported? You even posted in your thread (before you were banned from it) that you had no way to justify any of the numbers (other then your Fox news talking point).

So back to THIS thread that you aren't banned from yet. What are your thoughts on the leaked memo?

[vitterd]

So the memo is a fabrication? Stay on thread point.

And to answer your question for the 10th time, I (as well as others) don't think there is a correlation between deportation and enforcement. Out of your 400k example, how many were deportations due to jail terms expiring? How many were already in the system to be deported? You even posted in your thread (before you were banned from it) that you had no way to justify any of the numbers (other then your Fox news talking point).

So back to THIS thread that you aren't banned from yet. What are your thoughts on the leaked memo?

Do u wanna compare how many threads u get banned from to how many I get banned from? You even have a major advantage. You have similar thoughts as 2 mods. Yet u still get banned

I find it amusing that u can look at the words of lamar smith saying obama doesn't wanna deport illegal immigrants and yet he deported 400k. It is the typical rep spin. Say one thing while the numbers clearly don't back it up and then try to convince people what they say is correct. It is beyond silly. How can there be no correlation? In other words all the ones not deported are because of obama and his policies and all the ones deported have nothing to do with him. Again common sense is lost on u

To the memo. It is the norm red meat for anti immigrant groups and fringe republicans. Its why you are eating it up. U can see it is mostly common sense solutions to make immigration better. Did u see the memo? Is it policy? No. It is a bunch of copy and pasted info that is all over the place. It is another right wing move trying to scare people in the upcoming elections. Nothing new. Its why the only people u see discussing it are right wing fringe like yourself. Most that have read it have dismissed it.

[KazDog]

Do u wanna compare how many threads u get banned from to how many I get banned from? You even have a major advantage. You have similar thoughts as 2 mods. Yet u still get banned

I find it amusing that u can look at the words of lamar smith saying obama doesn't wanna deport illegal immigrants and yet he deported 400k. It is the typical rep spin. Say one thing while the numbers clearly don't back it up and then try to convince people what they say is correct. It is beyond silly. How can there be no correlation? In other words all the ones not deported are because of obama and his policies and all the ones deported have nothing to do with him. Again common sense is lost on u

To the memo. It is the norm red meat for anti immigrant groups and fringe republicans. Its why you are eating it up. U can see it is mostly common sense solutions to make immigration better. Did u see the memo? Is it policy? No. It is a bunch of copy and pasted info that is all over the place. It is another right wing move trying to scare people in the upcoming elections. Nothing new. Its why the only people u see discussing it are right wing fringe like yourself. Most that have read it have dismissed it.

Right on the money....Jman loves posting biased Conservative crap that's dumped into his email because he is the perfect sheep for their flock....

[Letswinalot]

If Obama would just let me out of my student loan debt I would love that man.

[KazDog]

As if more eveidence was needed confirming this president i s a piece of shit.



The leaked memo, entitled “Administrative Alternatives to Comprehensive Immigration Reform” is designed to “…reduce the threat of removal for certain individuals present in the United States without authorization.” In other words, to ensure that illegal immigrants will not be deported.

The amnesty plan outlined in the memo is designed to sidestep legislative action.

Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas), top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee this morning released the internal Department of Homeland Security (DHS) memo obtained by Senator Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa).

The release states:

One of the most outrageous proposals is to use DHS’ limited authority to grant deferred action on a broad basis. The memo proposes using deferred action (or inaction, as it is in practice) to allow certain individuals for whom “no relief appears available” to remain in the U.S. indefinitely and receive work authorization. This would give amnesty to millions of illegal workers.

“The document shows the Obama administration scheming to allow millions of illegal immigrants to stay and work in the United States,” Smith said. “The Obama administration is conspiring to implement amnesty without any Congressional action.”

Smith said that the Obama administration says one thing and does another promising border security and immigration enforcement yet sues Arizona for enforcing laws the administration says it is their right to enforce.

“But now we find out the truth: while saying one thing to the public, the Obama administration is scheming to ensure that immigration laws are not enforced!” Smith said.

Smith warned that it is Congress’ responsibility to enact law.

“How to deal with the millions of illegal immigrants in the country is a question for the people’s representatives in Congress and not for unaccountable federal bureaucrats,” Smith said. “This is an insult to millions of unemployed citizens and legal immigrants who have to compete with illegal immigrants for scarce jobs.”

“The Obama administration needs to stop its scheming and put American’s interests first,” Smith said.

More "evidence" this post is a piece of shit. Here's the story from a reputable news source, ABC News. Not some Right wing puked out garbage to their sheep....Just shows the utter bias and fear mongering tactics of Conservatives. They will grasp at any piece of shit item they can get their hands on and vomit it to their sheep......








Critics of President Obama's immigration policy have pounced on an internal government memo they say shows the administration is trying to circumvent Congress on immigration reform and avoid deporting some illegal immigrants.

An undated, internal draft memo by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services leaked Thursday outlines "administrative relief options to… reduce the threat of removal for certain individuals present in the United States without authorization."

"In the absence of comprehensive immigration reform," it reads, "USCIS can extend benefits and/or protections to many individuals and groups by issuing new guidance and regulations."

The memo describes possible steps the agency could take to address the situation of the country's estimated 11 million unauthorized immigrants, including granting some groups conditional legal residency.

One of the most controversial proposals in the document involves immigration courts showing greater leniency in some deportation cases by "deferring action"– possibly indefinitely.

"This would permit individuals for whom relief may become available in the future to live and work in the U.S. without fear of removal," the memo reads. It specifically suggests such a course be used for the estimated 50,000 undocumented youth who came to the U.S. as children and could be eligible for a path to citizenship under the pending Dream Act.

While the federal government has long exercised discretion in immigration cases on an ad hoc basis, Republicans say using those tools more broadly would amount to "amnesty."

"The President has promised border security and immigration enforcement. He has said we must hold individuals accountable for their illegal acts," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the top House Republican on the Judiciary Committee. "But now we find out the truth: while saying one thing to the public, the Obama administration is scheming to ensure that immigration laws are not enforced."

Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley, who has joined 11 other senators in pressing the administration for details on possible policy changes, said the leaked document "provides an additional basis for our concerns."

"The problem remains that if you reward illegality, you get more of it. Our first order of business must be to secure the border and enforce the laws on the books, not look for back channel ways to reward law breakers," Grassley said in a statement.

U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services press secretary Christopher Bentley responded to the accusations saying, "nobody should mistake deliberation and exchange of ideas for final decisions. To be clear, the Department of Homeland Security will not grant deferred action or humanitarian parole to the nation's entire illegal immigrant population."

"Internal memoranda help us do the thinking that leads to important changes; some of them are adopted and others are rejected. Our goal is to implement policies wisely and well to strengthen all aspects of our mission," he said.

The memo does acknowledge the political perils of pursuing some of the more controversial options it raises – including the prospect of having to ask Congress for funding.

"While it is theoretically possible to grant deferred action to an unrestricted number of unlawfully present individuals, doing so would likely be controversial, not to mention expensive," the memo reads. "Were USCIS to increase significantly the use of deferred action, the agency would either require a separate appropriation or independent funding stream" from Congress.

The White House has also signaled a reluctance to implement unilateral administrative policies that might jeopardize chances of bipartisan, comprehensive legislative reform.

After a group of illegal immigrant college students pressed the administration for an executive order to halt deportations of immigrant children brought to the U.S by their parents, senior White House advisor Valerie Jarrett told them Obama would not grant an executive order because he favored a legislative approach, participants in the meetings said.

The Obama administration has also not yet responded to an April request by Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin and Republican Sen. Richard Lugar for a moratorium on deportations of illegal immigrant students.

Meanwhile, statistics show the Department of Homeland Security deported a record number of illegal immigrants in 2009 and is on pace for a record number in 2010 – at the same time the number of illegal immigrants entering the U.S. is down significantly.

On Monday, 1,200 National Guard troops will deploy along the southwest border to assist with enforcement operations there after President Obama authorized the move last month.

Still, immigration officials have made clear their priorities for internal enforcement operations do not include non-criminal aliens who have overstayed visas or crossed a border illegally.

"Immigration and Customs Enforcement is focused on smart, effective immigration enforcement that focuses first on criminal aliens who pose a threat to our communities while we continue to work with Congress to enact reform," said DHS spokesman Matthew Chandler.

A June 30 memo from ICE director John Morton articulates many of the same objectives highlighted in the leaked USCIS memo , including the need for "prosecutorial discretion."

"The rapidly increasing number of criminal aliens who may come to ICE's attention heightens the need for ICE employees to exercise sound judgment and discretion consistent with these priorities when conducting enforcement operations, making detention decisions, making decisions about release on supervision," the ICE memo reads. "Particular care should be given when dealing with lawful permanent residents, juveniles, and the immediate family members of U.S. citizens."

While the leaked internal DHS memo is making waves on Capitol Hill, it does reflect some of the same enforcement priorities implemented by the administration of George W. Bush.

"You now have two presidents who basically have the same position on comprehensive immigration reform, and that's because you talk to the policy folks, and it's nearly impossible to do this piecemeal," said Nicole Wallace, former White House communications director for President George W. Bush.

[vitterd]

Amazing what the conservative fringe groups will do. They just line up their sheep and throw garbage. Funny how the story differs from actual news and spam email from right wing loons.

[husker]

still with the bush stuff.

i think EVERY conservative here has said they didn't like many things he and the rep's did during his term. good god, come up with some other talking points. no one is buying this one any more.

[vitterd]

still with the bush stuff.

i think EVERY conservative here has said they didn't like many things he and the rep's did during his term. good god, come up with some other talking points. no one is buying this one any more.

Why is the concept of comparing former presidents crazy to you? who else should we compare them to? You were shown bush did alot of the same things to clinton.. it was 1/10th of the article and thats all u commented on... what about the difference between the conservative spin and the actual facts of the memo? any thoughts on that?

[Jamaicanman]

.. what about the difference between the conservative spin and the actual facts of the memo? any thoughts on that?

What facts "in the memo" and differences are you referring to?

[efaw23]

What facts "in the memo" and differences are you referring to?

Jamaican man do you consider George bush a piece of shit. I voted for him twice and he lied more in the first year of his presidency than most did in one term. I'm not an obama fan don't like his policy on Afghanistan but everything he said he was going to do in Denver regarding health care and do and financial reform he has tried his best. Do I agree with it? No! But you guys bitch an
d moan like this was a shock to you guys. We had the office and still would have the office if bush hadn't spent us into oblivion. I don't get the shock or the outrage because did you think all of a sudden he was going to become a fiscal conservative?

I don't like his policies either but I don't think the man is a piece of shit. I'm 30 something white business owner in Chicago and his policies are no different than curious George. And I'm paying a few hundred more taxes? Yes fuckin local taxes thank-you richie dale and cook county.


This morning another member had a barack the angry Negro post up which I believe was taken down. I don't think anything was done besides that.

I'm starting to wonder about the motivation of the hate here for Obama. If its policy because most of its close to the previous administration bailout and out of control spending or the man's skin color.

[efaw23]

Sorry about the typos guys in previous post on train on the way home from office. Goodluck in your plays tonight and no disrespect meant to anyone in last post.