Clash over proposed Ground Zero mosque

[vols fan]

proves my point in my other thread(neocons). The mods did nothing to take this out. Read this whole thread and tell me some of these guys arent racist. I look into the muslim kids that come to our program and think about the guys who posted this shit. I would love for you to say it to some of their dads faces.

Put one of them towel heads in the seat next to me on a fucking plane and see if I won't say something to their face.

blacks,whites,reds,green or any other color I'm not racist against.

A guy with a towel on his head I can't help it, GUILTY

[Jamaicanman]

Wow you had to be a member of the national honor society. Youre threatening someone on the internet? You must be the toughest guy in your cul de sac. The level of stupidity here in discussing a fight over the net is overwhelming stern. Calling me a pussy really shows ur a tough sob.

But you telling people to make their comment to the Dad's of the little Muslim kids isn't trying to be a tough guy huh? Mooslim Daddy's be tough I guess.

[vitterd]

Seems like some anger in here over the past few days. I think it is completely insensative for a mosque to be built there. Don't agree with it at all but don't agree that u should be able to stop it either.

For the gun nuts that argue about the constitution doesn't that apply here? Or is that just the argument when it involves their guns?

Obama prob shouldn't have commented on it at all but what's he suppossed to say? Can he actually say he is against it while muslims are fighting in afgan and iraq for america. Of course not. Any pres either rep or dem would have given the same answer in my opinion.

[Jamaicanman]

Seems like some anger in here over the past few days. I think it is completely insensative for a mosque to be built there. Don't agree with it at all but don't agree that u should be able to stop it either.

For the gun nuts that argue about the constitution doesn't that apply here? Or is that just the argument when it involves their guns?

Obama prob shouldn't have commented on it at all but what's he suppossed to say? Can he actually say he is against it while muslims are fighting in afgan and iraq for america. Of course not. Any pres either rep or dem would have given the same answer in my opinion.

I haven't seen anyone post they don't have the "right" to build it there, assuming all local ordinances are met. I have seen all the posts against being about the insensitivity of the location of the project.

As far as pres comments, he should have stuck with the "local issue" theme. But it was obvious he was bowing to his audience with his comments Friday night.

[vitterd]

I haven't seen anyone post they don't have the "right" to build it there, assuming all local ordinances are met. I have seen all the posts against being about the insensitivity of the location of the project.

As far as pres comments, he should have stuck with the "local issue" theme. But it was obvious he was bowing to his audience with his comments Friday night.

I thought he blew it by commenting on it at all but u are correct he should have just said it was a local issue. Although I'm sure the right would have buried him for that as well

[Jamaicanman]

I thought he blew it by commenting on it at all but u are correct he should have just said it was a local issue. Although I'm sure the right would have buried him for that as well

They might have, but I don't t hink it would have been ammo for the fall, nor would it have put Dems in the position to defend or agree with the comments. ie Reid.

[Jamaicanman]

President chooses the wrong side -- again

President chooses the wrong side -- again


WASHINGTON -- Ultimately, politics is all about priorities.

Whose defense a politician rushes to first tells you whose side he is on. And will always be on.

No amount of backpedaling and obfuscation later by even the most magical of politicians can erase the colors he has chosen.

So, after weeks of his administration's repeatedly dodging the scary issue of whether a mosque should be built within sneering distance of Ground Zero, President Obama decided to pick a side.

In a roomful of Muslim-Americans observing a religious feast at the White House, Obama once again embraced them first over the victims, survivors and rememberers of 9/11.

With our soldiers still fighting wars overseas and atrocities still committed regularly in the name of Islam, Obama did not -- standing there in the White House -- see the opportunity before him to demand that Muslim leaders do more to scrub away the blight in their religion.

Nor did he see the opportunity, given his personal legitimacy among Muslims, to demand that the Islamic world practice the tolerance and love of freedom that is the hallmark of the very civilizations that the terrorists want to obliterate -- again, in the name of Islam.

Instead, in the sea of pain and agony that lingers from that horrible terrorist attack nine years on, Obama determined once again that it is Americans who must do more.

Survivors of 9/11 need to just get over it.

They really need to be more tolerant.

Just as Obama always seems to side against Israel in Middle East matters, Obama has once again sided against a massive group of Americans on this issue.

If we have learned nothing else from the plotters of the Ground Zero mosque, it is that they certainly are not tolerant of those who justifiably feel maligned by their designs.

At the very least, they are provocateurs willing to insult those innocents upon whom hell on earth was unleashed nine years ago -- in the name of Islam.

In a speech to the Muslim world last year in Cairo, Obama made the astonishing assertion that "it is part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear."

You cannot say you were not warned.