Congressional Report Claims Administration Misled About Efforts on Oil Spill

[vitterd]

Monte, I agree with this ALMOST 100 %. I see that you feel JMAN is one sided and I can't argue that.
BUT, how can you not see that VITTERD is just as one sided the other way?

Neither one, and I mean NEITHER ONE, of the two see anything with an open mind. JMAN feels that all Dems are wrong and Vitterd feels that all Reps are wrong. If a Dem says it, JMAN feels its wrong and if a Rep says it, Vitterd feels that its wrong.
Whether Vitterd believes it or not, I actually agree with some of the things he says and the same goes for JMAN.

My point Monte is that from what I've read in this Rant Section, no matter what the topic, they are both going to disagree and never see the other side. I hope you can see that one is no better than the other.

One difference is I do not agree with some obama policies and decisions. I can see he has made some mistakes and could have handles some issues better. Jman just constantly bashes the president no matter what. Cmon posting a report from the rep govt oversight committee? What do u think it will say? U know how many reports there were by dems on the previous admin? I'm guessing jman saw those as partisan dems who hate bush. Somehow when republicans do this kind of thing it is gospel.

[baseballdave]

One difference is I do not agree with some obama policies and decisions. I can see he has made some mistakes and could have handles some issues better. Jman just constantly bashes the president no matter what. Cmon posting a report from the rep govt oversight committee? What do u think it will say? U know how many reports there were by dems on the previous admin? I'm guessing jman saw those as partisan dems who hate bush. Somehow when republicans do this kind of thing it is gospel.

I agree with everything EXCEPT the last sentence - "Somehow when republicans do this kind of thing it is gospel."

That has been my whole point with you. You lump "republicans" as if ALL reps do this. Even you have to admit that if you read this statement, it seems to say that all reps do and believe this way - and we don't.

Some reps are brainwashed like this - as are some dems. By your posts, I just don't feel you see or believe this. It seems that you feel ALL reps are like this and only dems can have an open mind, and that is far from factual.

[musclemann]

One difference is I do not agree with some obama policies and decisions. I can see he has made some mistakes and could have handles some issues better. Jman just constantly bashes the president no matter what. Cmon posting a report from the rep govt oversight committee? What do u think it will say? U know how many reports there were by dems on the previous admin? I'm guessing jman saw those as partisan dems who hate bush. Somehow when republicans do this kind of thing it is gospel.

This is how most people think vit. No one agrees with everything that obama is doing and sits there and constantly posts 100's of stories on how great a job he is doing. But 3 guys in particular on here all they do is post 100's of negative stories about him. I mean if you believe their account EVERYTHING he has done since he was born is wrong. Theyre fringe fanatical right winged hypocrites.They were totally silent during the last administration failures, some of the bigest failures in our history, but they pop off everytime obama take a piss. If they had a open minded thought in their heads they would notice the hypocrisy and mention every 15th story that he did do something positive, but they cant.

Has he been perfect? absolutely not. But considering the clown we had in office 8 years before him, who was a dr. seuss expert during the biggest crisis in the history of the united states the job he faced before entering office, he has done satisfactory.

He couldve said no to saving the united states auto industry....which every republican on here and in congress wanted to do....and sat around and watch unemployment go up to 16 percent but he refused to. Keep making me right and keep posting your negative obama posts please, just proves you have no neutral opinions inside your souls at all.

[Stern162]

This is how most people think vit. No one agrees with everything that obama is doing and sits there and constantly posts 100\'s of stories on how great a job he is doing. But 3 guys in particular on here all they do is post 100\'s of negative stories about him. I mean if you believe their account EVERYTHING he has done since he was born is wrong. Theyre fringe fanatical right winged hypocrites.They were totally silent during the last administration failures, some of the bigest failures in our history, but they pop off everytime obama take a piss. If they had a open minded thought in their heads they would notice the hypocrisy and mention every 15th story that he did do something positive, but they cant.

Has he been perfect? absolutely not. But considering the clown we had in office 8 years before him, who was a dr. seuss expert during the biggest crisis in the history of the united states the job he faced before entering office, he has done satisfactory.

He couldve said no to saving the united states auto industry....which every republican on here and in congress wanted to do....and sat around and watch unemployment go up to 16 percent but he refused to. Keep making me right and keep posting your negative obama posts please, just proves you have no neutral opinions inside your souls at all.

Change the fu*ken record dude

[Stern162]

I agree with everything EXCEPT the last sentence - \"Somehow when republicans do this kind of thing it is gospel.\"

That has been my whole point with you. You lump \"republicans\" as if ALL reps do this. Even you have to admit that if you read this statement, it seems to say that all reps do and believe this way - and we don\'t.

Some reps are brainwashed like this - as are some dems. By your posts, I just don\'t feel you see or believe this. It seems that you feel ALL reps are like this and only dems can have an open mind, and that is far from factual.

Post 18 dave. Case in point .

[Watchtower76]

He couldve said no to saving the united states auto industry....which every republican on here and in congress wanted to do....and sat around and watch unemployment go up to 16 percent but he refused to. Keep making me right and keep posting your negative obama posts please, just proves you have no neutral opinions inside your souls at all.

Auto industry, really? GM should have gone belly up....oh but that's right they repaid that 7 billion dollars 2 years early, who gives a rats ass... And about the unemployment up to 16%, sorry but we are already there....you just sit back and watch your CNBC b.s and i'll give you some real stats...

Initial view of employment data is a poor report.

Knee jerk reaction was upward as 83K private jobs were added, offset by some 225K census lost - hence a net -125K, which was a bit below consensus but not off much. We need about 125K a month just to keep "flat" with population growth.

Unemployment rate fell to 9.5% (versus last month's 9.7%) which on the surface is improvement but once more it's all about the way America counts its unemployed... if you are not actively looking for 4 weeks you no longer are unemployed in the country. We've stressed labor force participation is at all time lows... and it got worse. 652,000 people "left" the workforce.... dropped out, disappeared, poof, kazam, etc. Hence the labor force participation shrunk even more...

The irony here is if the GOP does not pass extended benefits benefits, the unemployment rate might shrink even further as countless more drop out of the labor force ... which again, by American standards mean they are no longer unemployed.

The labor work week shrunk 0.1 back down to 34.1.... another negative. The only positive the bulls had last month was this figure when they claimed an increase of 0.1 work week was equivalent to 300K new jobs. Well, that just went away.

Hourly wages look like down 2 cents.

Birth death model added 147,000 jobs (you can't subtract this directly from any of the figures above)... i.e. the government is telling us small business formation & hiring is BOOMING across America yet again.

U-6 (a better reflection of national unemployment) dropped to 16.5% (from 16.6%) which is the only positive but I think its affected by the same drop off of 650K Americans. I can only assume people are going into some form of underground economy to survive or joining programs (if eligible) like welfare or disability.... or simply desperate with nowhere to turn.

Temp workers increased only 20K which is the lowest I can remember for perhaps 6 months.

Summary: your local and national politicians will crow about the "improvement" in the economy due to the unemployment rate dropping to 9.5%. Reality - hundreds of thousands of Americans are disappearing from the official labor force, and have been doing so this entire recession recovery. No one knows where they are... and the % of Americans working versus the total population remains at levels we've not seen before.

[Watchtower76]

but anyone who owned GM stock and watched it go to zero, washed out....Now they come back a year later and begin the IPO stage next month, what a crock

[Watchtower76]

but anyone who owned GM stock and watched it go to zero, washed out....Now they come back a year later and begin the IPO stage next month, what a crock

DETROIT (AP) — Americans' enthusiasm for new cars and trucks cooled in June on worries about the economy, signaling that the auto industry's recovery is far from certain.
GM, Ford and Chrysler said sales of new cars and trucks fell between 12 and 13 percent in June from the prior month. Sales at Toyota Motor Corp. slid 14 percent.


thank god we saved another industry, that sure will help out in the long run....Next you'll say Obama saved the housing markets....

the only regulation that will ever work is failure. If you don't allow failure what you end up with is regulators trying to serve when it's time to take punch bowls away. Regulators never go against the grain. Back in 03-04 many in the fixed income markets saw it coming but nobody wants to pull that punch bowl away. Businesses should fail, that's the way the system was designed

[efaw23]

Wow its idependence day and the same cast are at it as usual. Stern are you going to challenge him to a fight again? You called me a zombie a couple days ago and I've never replied to any of your racist one sided post. You must have some severe psychological issues because as look at some of your recent posts they include racial taunts,posts referring to minorities as dogs,posts about the city of Chicago and minorities...i mean they go on and on. One thing is constant, you seem to hate people of different backgrounds,I'm surprised youve been able to survive in chicago with the attitude you have toward minorities. It probably means you come here to voice your hatred and not on the streets because you wouldbt have made to far in life talking in the real world like this. Take care and god bless you and hopefully u will not make the mistake of talking like that in the city,because I don't think u would make it.

[musclemann]

Change the fu*ken record dude

Hey badass stern how you doing?
I know you said something about kicking my butt at the gas city



Man that was one the funniest posts i ever seen.

[Jamaicanman]

Hey badass stern how you doing?
I know you said something about kicking my butt at the gas city



Man that was one the funniest posts i ever seen.

Since you saw fit to correct my "typo", maybe you should ask Daley for a refund on that public education!


"one the?"
"I ever seen?"


If you are going to correct my typing, I guess I should correct your butchering of the English language!

[musclemann]

So you mean there is nothing in there you can refute? Thanks!
Who do you claim in lying from the parishes? What statements and dates are incorrect?

You have family who served huh? You probably have some black "friends" too!! What did you call those protestors again?

I will await your next moronic post and comment about laughing guy (who's still laughing at the stupid people!!)

You mean this pile of shit no one could understand? I didnt respond to any 1st grade post you submitted because I try not to respond to bold faced liars. Its been proven and your reputation for being honest is 0.0.

[Stern162]

Hey badass stern how you doing?
I know you said something about kicking my butt at the gas city



Man that was one the funniest posts i ever seen.

Hey Wimp. How goes it ?

powerlifting and pimpin. OMG. LMFAO.

What are you 13 ?

[Jamaicanman]

I try not to respond to bold faced liars. Its been proven and your reputation for being honest is 0.0.

Like the lie about Rahm's apt? Oh that's right, you were too clueless to know. Or called out on BRK? Oh that's right, you backed down b/c you were dead pan wrong AGAIN. You challenge Jordanrules to fights 24/7 and called him every name in the book when he doesn't show but Stern calls you out and you go into hiding! And according to you, everyone on here, including Spark, is racist.

I wouldn't want to trade rep's in a heartbeat.

[musclemann]

Like the lie about Rahm's apt? Oh that's right, you were too clueless to know. Or called out on BRK? Oh that's right, you backed down b/c you were dead pan wrong AGAIN. You challenge Jordanrules to fights 24/7 and called him every name in the book when he doesn't show but Stern calls you out and you go into hiding! And according to you, everyone on here, including Spark, is racist.

I wouldn't want to trade rep's in a heartbeat.

I didnt bring sparks name or anyone elses name into this. I will let the mods handle this. Have a great 4th.