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  • We Need To Wean Ourselves From Our Dirty Oil Addiction

    posted by: GinaMarie Cheeseman 13 hours ago



    In order to halt global warming, greenhouse gas emissions must be reduced, and that means transitioning from the use of fossil fuels to clean, renewable energy. The oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico is proof positive that fossil fuels are dangerous, as is the break in a Chevron oil pipeline near Salt Lake City that occurred over a week ago. Many people say this is impossible. They look solely at the time it will take to transition. Bill McKibben believes that nevertheless, Obama needs to seize the moment and issue a ‘stirring’ call for Americans to wean themselves from fossil fuels.

    There are things the U.S. government can do to transition away from fossil fuels, and among them is eliminating subsidies to fossil fuel companies, including oil companies.

    While speaking to an audience of around 300 people at Carnegie Mellon University earlier this month, President Obama said part of transitioning to a clean energy economy is rolling back the tax breaks oil companies receive so investments can be made in clean energy research and development.

    The Organisation for Economic Development (OECD) agrees with Obama. Recently, the OECD released a report that said phasing out subsidies for fossil fuels, which amount to $557 billion worldwide, could reduce GHG emissions by as much as 10 percent. The International Energy Agency (IEA) released analysis two weeks ago that found phasing out subsidies would cut global oil demand by 6.5 million barrels per day in 2020, about one-third of current U.S. demand.

    There other ways the U.S. can transition away from petroleum. The IEA outline for reducing American oil consumption by 29 percent between 2007 and 2030 includes increasing public transportation, shifting to hybrid and plug in hybrid vehicles, using more biofuels, increasing conservation in heating homes, and almost eliminating oil use in electricity generation.

    A phased-in oil tax that reached the equivalent of about $1.70 per gallon of gasoline by 2030 would reduce oil consumption by around 10 to 15 percent, says Ian Parry, senior fellow at Resources for the Future.

    The U.S. could reduce oil-powered transportation in the U.S. by 40 percent between 2010 and 2025 by shifting around half of car transportation to public transportation and one-third of domestic flying to high-speed trains, according to Anthony Perl, director of the Urban Studies Program at Simon Fraser University.

    We Need To Wean Ourselves From Our Dirty Oil Addiction

  • #2
    What's a better solution Monte?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kbsooner21 View Post
      What's a better solution Monte?
      Horse and buggy...

      TOUCHDOWN FAT BOY!

      I was Born my Pappy's Son,
      When I hit the ground, I was on the Run!
      Jon E. Checkers

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      • #4
        Quit drivin.Get a bike!I'll keep my truck,thankyou.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Big Country 5 View Post
          Quit drivin.Get a bike!I'll keep my truck,thankyou.
          big country, you've said this exact line a couple of times now. good, you like your truck. that doesn't change the fact that we need to do something to ween ourselves off of the oil tit. I know a lot of people like yourself do not believe in evolution, but its time we evolve. nobody said it was gonna be easy, and you're not a bad person for driving your truck, but we need another alternative and we need to start down that road now.
          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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          • #6
            Lets wean ourselves with crazy tax rates which will kill the middle class. Why does the changeover have to make us poorer. So government can own you, thats why.
            NBA is a joke

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            • #7
              Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
              Lets wean ourselves with crazy tax rates which will kill the middle class. Why does the changeover have to make us poorer. So government can own you, thats why.
              flare, I'm a middle class white person and I'm doing really well, so get a new argument.
              "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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              • #8
                Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                flare, I'm a middle class white person and I'm doing really well, so get a new argument.


                Whats your point, you want more taxes? Fine, glad you are doing well, so am I. I worry about the future taxes that never get repealed. the Bush tax cuts are going to runout.

                When will it stop?
                NBA is a joke

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                  flare, I'm a middle class white person and I'm doing really well, so get a new argument.

                  “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                  Gerald Ford

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
                    Whats your point, you want more taxes? Fine, glad you are doing well, so am I. I worry about the future taxes that never get repealed. the Bush tax cuts are going to runout.

                    When will it stop?
                    flare, I'm about 99.9% positive that when the bush tax cuts run out you're not going to be hurting. you already stated that you're middle class; the tax cuts are going to effect those making over 250,000 a year. I know that people making over that amount are going to be pissed, but our budget has been in the red since those cuts were enacted by bush in 2001 and even further in 2003. furthermore, oil companies would lose 39 billion in tax breaks, and the budget will increse by another 25 billion by closing tax loop holes for investment manager; both that I hardly feel sorry for because they've made record profits over the past decade and should shoulder a lot of the blame for the situation our country is in today. The budget also includes new tax cuts for investing in small businesses and tax breaks for retrofitting homes to save energy. I don't know about you, but I think small businesses are what makes our country great. they were given a raw deal under bush, yet he acted like he supported small business owners, which is a joke. Reagan," Dick Cheney famously said in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter."Leave aside for the moment that President Bush authored the worst eight-year economic record of any modern president or that John Boehner like other Republicans is trying to give the GOP credit for the Clinton boom (which also occurred during a time of higher tax rates. John Boehner's myth-making notwithstanding, it was precisely the Bush tax cuts which devastated the Treasury.

                    In 2001, as you may recall, George W. Bush inherited a federal budget in the black and CBO forecast for a $5.6 trillion surplus over 10 years. As The Hill noted Thursday:

                    In January 2001, before the Bush tax cuts were enacted, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projected annual budget surpluses of approximately $800 billion between 2009 and 2012. The CBO now projects a $1.2 trillion annual deficit for those years and has also stated that the Bush tax cuts contributed to the budget deficit.

                    And how.

                    President George W. Bush quickly set about dismantling the progress made under Clinton. Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cut in 2001, followed by a second $550 billion round in 2003. As the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) detailed, those Bush tax cuts accounted for almost half of the mushrooming deficits during his tenure.
                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                      flare, I'm about 99.9% positive that when the bush tax cuts run out you're not going to be hurting. you already stated that you're middle class; the tax cuts are going to effect those making over 250,000 a year. I know that people making over that amount are going to be pissed, but our budget has been in the red since those cuts were enacted by bush in 2001 and even further in 2003. furthermore, oil companies would lose 39 billion in tax breaks, and the budget will increse by another 25 billion by closing tax loop holes for investment manager; both that I hardly feel sorry for because they've made record profits over the past decade and should shoulder a lot of the blame for the situation our country is in today. The budget also includes new tax cuts for investing in small businesses and tax breaks for retrofitting homes to save energy. I don't know about you, but I think small businesses are what makes our country great. they were given a raw deal under bush, yet he acted like he supported small business owners, which is a joke. Reagan," Dick Cheney famously said in 2002, "proved deficits don't matter."Leave aside for the moment that President Bush authored the worst eight-year economic record of any modern president or that John Boehner like other Republicans is trying to give the GOP credit for the Clinton boom (which also occurred during a time of higher tax rates. John Boehner's myth-making notwithstanding, it was precisely the Bush tax cuts which devastated the Treasury.

                      In 2001, as you may recall, George W. Bush inherited a federal budget in the black and CBO forecast for a $5.6 trillion surplus over 10 years. As The Hill noted Thursday:

                      In January 2001, before the Bush tax cuts were enacted, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projected annual budget surpluses of approximately $800 billion between 2009 and 2012. The CBO now projects a $1.2 trillion annual deficit for those years and has also stated that the Bush tax cuts contributed to the budget deficit.

                      And how.

                      President George W. Bush quickly set about dismantling the progress made under Clinton. Bush's $1.4 trillion tax cut in 2001, followed by a second $550 billion round in 2003. As the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities (CBPP) detailed, those Bush tax cuts accounted for almost half of the mushrooming deficits during his tenure.



                      Try and focus, stay on point and answer this simple question.

                      How will taxing gasoline another $1 or $2 dollars a gallon not make a working class person poorer????????? Will that gas tax only be charged to the rich?????? The Dems will dream up some sort of tax credit or shit for gas which half of those people cant afford accountants already.

                      The idiots who propose this crap can all afford it
                      NBA is a joke

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                      • #12
                        GM, please just answer one question.

                        what branch of the govt controls the purs strings (spending)?

                        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                        Gerald Ford

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
                          Try and focus, stay on point and answer this simple question.

                          How will taxing gasoline another $1 or $2 dollars a gallon not make a working class person poorer????????? Will that gas tax only be charged to the rich?????? The Dems will dream up some sort of tax credit or shit for gas which half of those people cant afford accountants already.

                          The idiots who propose this crap can all afford it
                          trust me, I'm not thrilled about it, but we all have to make sacrifices. I've already stated that with all the cost that should go into the cost of gas, it should be somewhere in the range of 20-25 dollars a gallon. i teach 25 miles away from my home, so I'm driving over 50 miles round trip a day, but I adjusted and bought a hybrid thats great on gas, and I ride my bike when I'm back in towm. I know that everyone cannot ride a bike, so that's not the answer to our problems. I digress, gas should be $20+ a gallon if the free market was allowed to work its course, but its not, so we're still getting a deal. Nonetheless, I think there can be more creative ways to figure this problem out than to shift a lot of the cost onto people like you and me. So, in that case I agree with you, but I do think letting the Bush tax expire is a good thing, and will make those people pay their fair share of taxes that they haven't been paying for the past ten years.
                          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                            trust me, I'm not thrilled about it, but we all have to make sacrifices. I've already stated that with all the cost that should go into the cost of gas, it should be somewhere in the range of 20-25 dollars a gallon. i teach 25 miles away from my home, so I'm driving over 50 miles round trip a day, but I adjusted and bought a hybrid thats great on gas, and I ride my bike when I'm back in towm. I know that everyone cannot ride a bike, so that's not the answer to our problems. I digress, gas should be $20+ a gallon if the free market was allowed to work its course, but its not, so we're still getting a deal. Nonetheless, I think there can be more creative ways to figure this problem out than to shift a lot of the cost onto people like you and me. So, in that case I agree with you, but I do think letting the Bush tax expire is a good thing, and will make those people pay their fair share of taxes that they haven't been paying for the past ten years.

                            all the tax laws are so complicated, people don't understand them, and politicians can twist them to fit their talking points.

                            don't you think a flat tax without any deductions would be the fairest tax? i don't have a problem with the high income people paying a higher percentage. now THAT would be a start to govt transparency.
                            Last edited by husker; 06-24-2010, 04:41 PM.
                            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                            Gerald Ford

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by husker View Post
                              GM, please just answer one question.

                              what branch of the govt controls the purs strings (spending)?


                              this is a easy question.
                              “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have."

                              Gerald Ford

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