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  • #16
    Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
    I get screwed so hard in taxes it's not funny, if it was going to improving our education that would be one thing, but this war is a joke, how many trillions are we going to end up spending on this. Do you know how many bets I could've made with that money?
    How many of your Dems voted for the war? How many of you Dems wanted to bomb them fuckers on Sept 12? I would hope all of you.Get off the same old argument and catch up with the times

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BOBBY5ACES View Post
      over 50% voted for obama knowing that he would be pushing this and they voted 4 him so who-s doing your math
      The same guy thats doing your spelling





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      • #18
        BW,honest to God man I respect your opinions more than any other Dem on the site.You have always shot straight and people respect that.PLEASE don't fall into the trap of bringing up Bush/War//Palin/WMD in every post as a comeback. You guys won today so you should be talking about today and the next 10 years that this bullshit is taking place.Thats what this thread is for.Give us your opinions on it.I for one will listen cause I respect you.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by vols fan View Post
          How many of your Dems voted for the war? How many of you Dems wanted to bomb them fuckers on Sept 12? I would hope all of you.Get off the same old argument and catch up with the times
          The Government has more control than you think, obviously. You think me and you decided to invade and occupy Iraq. They do whatever they want to do, I just prefer they spend my money on things that make more sense. And for the record, it's not old news, if you didn't notice we're still spending butt loads of money over there, and for nothing. You don't seem to be up in arms about that.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
            The Government has more control than you think, obviously. You think me and you decided to invade and occupy Iraq. They do whatever they want to do, I just prefer they spend my money on things that make more sense. And for the record, it's not old news, if you didn't notice we're still spending butt loads of money over there, and for nothing. You don't seem to be up in arms about that.
            Were going to be spending money on the military anyway.Adding 32 million more people to healthcare is another issue and another hole in our budget IMO

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            • #21
              I hope you guys know that I'm a fair guy and will be the first to say I was wrong if this works out to the good but MY GOD IT SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME that the government took over the banks,auto industry and now healthcare.That is not good for us IMO

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              • #22
                Originally posted by vols fan View Post
                Were going to be spending money on the military anyway.Adding 32 million more people to healthcare is another issue and another hole in our budget IMO
                It's costing us a whole hell of lot more than just our normal military costs. IMO the healthcare reform needed to get done, and there was no way it was going to be perfect. I respect people disagreeing with that though. The war pisses me off to no end however, such a joke, so misleaded, such a waste of money. Our education and the future of our country is falling apart, and we're wasting trillions on that shit.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
                  It's costing us a whole hell of lot more than just our normal military costs. IMO the healthcare reform needed to get done, and there was no way it was going to be perfect. I respect people disagreeing with that though. The war pisses me off to no end however, such a joke, so misleaded, such a waste of money. Our education and the future of our country is falling apart, and we're wasting trillions on that shit.
                  It's a waste of money by Bush but Obama hasn't stopped it yet either.I guess it was easier said than done for him.

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                  • #24
                    Below is a graph that displays the amount of money the world spends on military budgets.

                    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nSTO-vZpSg...y+spending.png

                    Below is a warning from Ike, which btw was a pub president and a 5 star general in during WWII. It's a must watch, only 2 min long.


                    YouTube - Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex.
                    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                    • #25
                      Also, IMO Ike was one of the last Presidents to focus on our Infrastructure and transportation. I have attached a graph that shows the rapid decline since 1950-and we wonder why our roads are falling apart.

                      Government Spending Chart in United States 1950-2010 - Federal State Local
                      "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                        Also, IMO Ike was one of the last Presidents to focus on our Infrastructure and transportation. I have attached a graph that shows the rapid decline since 1950-and we wonder why our roads are falling apart.

                        Government Spending Chart in United States 1950-2010 - Federal State Local
                        Looks like the blame falls on Clinton to me.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by vols fan View Post
                          Looks like the blame falls on Clinton to me.
                          Clinton and the pub congress. IMO the decline started in the 80's.
                          "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by grandmama View Post
                            Clinton and the pub congress. IMO the decline started in the 80's.
                            THANK YOU GRANDMAMA Even though it's a shot at the pubs,someone finally blamed CONGRESS along with the President.It just sucks for us now that THEY are all on the same team.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by vols fan View Post
                              How many of your Dems voted for the war? How many of you Dems wanted to bomb them fuckers on Sept 12? I would hope all of you.Get off the same old argument and catch up with the times

                              Vols you are so right!!!!!!! I just wished we only bombed the people responsible for 9/11.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
                                It's costing us a whole hell of lot more than just our normal military costs. IMO the healthcare reform needed to get done, and there was no way it was going to be perfect. I respect people disagreeing with that though. The war pisses me off to no end however, such a joke, so misleaded, such a waste of money. Our education and the future of our country is falling apart, and we're wasting trillions on that shit.
                                BW I think 100% of the people on this site agrees that health care needs to be reform. But I think where we differ is that we don't trust the people doing the reforming....

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