The history of the world

[Celtics86]

It all began about a hundred thousand years ago on a ledge in front of a cave. A female of the human species walked by attracting the attention of a male. The male stepped forward, cocked his arm, and smacked her over the head with a club. WHACK! He then dragged the unconscious female into his cave for sex. One day there were two males standing in front of the cave when a female walked by. The first cocked back his arm to club a female walking by. The second male grunted to the first that clubbing females over the head to have sex was not nice. WHACK! WHACK! The first male stepped over the unconscious second male and dragged the female into his cave for sex. On that day the World’s First Liberal paid the price for expressing a new idea.



Things didn’t change much for thousands of years until the advent of projectile weapons. This was first symbolized by the David and Goliath story in the Bible where the large strong brute was laid flat by the small smart boy. Once brute strength was no longer the guiding factor in social interaction, liberal ideas slowly gained a foothold in human society.





RJ

[Celtics86]

Throughout history the price for preaching tolerance and change has been paid in threats, beatings, incarceration, torture, murder, assassination, execution and crucifixion. Many liberals have paid the ultimate price. Though Jesus Christ was the most famous, names in recent history that come to mind are Lincoln, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Robert Kennedy and Anwar Sadat. Today there are many conservative individuals, groups and nations who use threats of violence and violent action to silence the voices of peace and tolerance. Here in America, conservatives are represented by racists and homophobes beating Gays and Blacks, often to death, not for money or anger generated by interactive cause, but because of religious intolerance and secular bigotry. Liberal talk show host Alan Berg spoke out against a conservative organization called the Aryan Nations. Shortly after,he was gunned down walking his dog in front of his house. So much for Liberal talk radio. David Rice is a man on death row in Washington State who had no remorse for entering the home of a family of four and carving out their living hearts only because he heard they were liberals [He got their names from a Democrat Party membership list]. Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols killed 168 men, women and children for no other reason than they were conservative gunloons. Arguing that such crimes are not political in nature or that they are not done by conservatives is utter nonsense. Look back:

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Who nailed whom to a cross?
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Who were the Loyalists to the totalitarian monarchy of “Mad” King George?
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Who started the Civil War to defend and extend slavery?
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Who fought to keep women as property?
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Who battled against child labor statutes?
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Who argued against the concept of free public education?
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Who campaigned against the right of women to vote?
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Who opposed anti-trust and monopoly legislation?
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Who fought against workers organizing into Unions?
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Who defended Jim Crow laws for a hundred years?
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Who voted against civil rights legislation?
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Who tries to overturn almost every environmental statute?
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Who fought against Social Security, Medicare and the Minimum Wage?
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Who is trying to pass legislation to discriminate against Gays?
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Who is trying to enact the Ku Klux Klan’s central issue of eliminating affirmative action?
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Who instills in our children the unique American tragedy of gungoonery?
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Who have always put their wallets above the common good?
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Who started World War II for Christ sake!

Conservatives or Liberals? It’s the historic undeniable truth of the matter. It’s the nature of the Beast.




RJ

[Celtics86]

Conservatism has many definitions depending upon who does the defining, but the four basic traits of the conservative nature cannot be denied:

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First comes the base meaning of the word, aversion to change. Holding to the historic notion of keeping power and wealth in the hands of the few.
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Secondly is the selfishness; freely admitted and proudly accepted.
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Thirdly the basic intolerance which permeates every philosophical, political and social issue they set voice to.
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And lastly, their most basic traditional value: A callous, often violent disregard for anyplace or anyone considered different..............




Parents, friends, environment, religion and education all play an important role in the development of today’s conservative, but as the ideology has existed virtually unchanged for a million years, one could argue that it may be genetic in origin. Perhaps conservatism is the natural state of all animal life; that it takes strength, effort and a bit of a creative inclination to evolve out of the primordial soup and become human.





RJ

[Jamaicanman]

conservatives are represented by racists and homophobes beating Gays and Blacks, often to death...


Welcome back. Great open mind and insight.

[Celtics86]

Idealism is not dead in America. It has only changed from a time when people actually thought that the point was to make the world a better place to live for everyone. Only one word has changed, to make the world a better place to live for ME.



The Ten Traditional American Values



1) Dueling

2) Injun killin’

3) Slavery

4) Apartheid

5) Woman ownin’

6) Leech Bleeding

7) Witch dunking

8) Public hangings

9) Child labor

10) GUNS IN BARS!



The Five Basic Conservative Values



1) Hating Liberals!!

2) Caring about little other than themselves and their wallets.

3) Demeaning minorities, immigrants and foreigners.

4) Promoting the discrimination against homosexuals.

5) Promoting the proliferation of handguns and assault rifles.



The Five Human Values



1) A secure job with a future that pays well enough to support a family.

2) Affordable, accessible health care whether out of work, poor or already ill.

3) A free education for our children also free of other people’s inclinations to the supernatural.

4) Time off to spend with family members during critical times such as birth, sickness and death without getting fired.

5) Neighborhoods free from gun-wielding lunatics.



Conservatives and the Republican Party have in the past and at present been adamantly against every real family value stated above. They rail against collective bargaining, minimum wage laws, universal health care, public schools, the separation clause of the 1st Amendment, family leave and gun controls. All the while defining themselves as the purveyors of family values.



When was it that hate, intolerance, selfishness, bigotry, gun waving and a callous disregard became the nub of our value system? What happened? How did we let them define the worst of human foibles as the best of American values? How did it happen? Who’s to blame? It’s not Madison Avenue, the conservative propaganda assailing us from every direction, or the corporate media. Rather, it is everyone who allows themselves to be so easily manipulated by such entities. Whenever you are in a mood to place blame, put it where it belongs, on the backs of The People.



Speaking of American Values:

THE VALUE OF THE 50’s - WORK & SAVE!


THE VALUE OF THE 60’s - SHARE & CARE!


THE VALUE OF THE 70’s - LOOK AT ME!


THE VALUE OF THE 80’s - I ME MY MINE!


THE VALUE OF THE 90’s - FUCKEM!


THE VALUE OF THE 00's - FUCKEM & KILLEM!






RJ

[Celtics86]

Ten Good Things



About Liberals



1) Being so rare, they are worth a lot.

2) They seem to have working brains.

3) They don’t eat much.

4) They at least pretend to care about something other than themselves.

5) I laugh with them rather than at them.

6) They give us almost all our art, literature and music.

7) They don’t smell of gun oil.

8) They know Rush Limbaugh for the pig he is.

9) They know Christianity is being bastardized.

10) They don’t yell at me as much as conservatives.



About Conservatives



1) They make me feel far more intelligent, altruistic and compassionate than I really am.

2) As a White guy, they help make my life a lot easier than it could otherwise be.

3) Hmmm...



About the Religious Right



1) They make conservatives look good.

2) Hmmm...



About Libertarians



1) Hmmm...






RJ

[Celtics86]

Most American wage earners have gone from well paid hard work in the mills to low wage part-time hours in the malls, spending their days on the lowest wrung of the service ladder ever more immersed in the grand capitalist scheme of insatiable materialism, or to use the more conservatively correct term, supply side economics. Whether in the ****, at fast food joints in their silly uniforms, or behind the counter in any number of service oriented jobs, "stuff" has not only become the center of our lives, but is now responsible for leading us all into a life of ever smaller incomes, hopes and thoughts.



With little education, suffering economic and personal fears, and manipulated by such an effective GOP propaganda machine that November 1994 exit polls showed 47% of the voters believed welfare and foreign aid were the two largest Federal budget outlays (together they add up to less than 4% including food stamps), 38% of the voters making under $15,000 a year voted Republican. They could be given a period of understanding I suppose, but after decades of punching the voting cards for the very people kicking them in the head, I must admit my sympathy has thinned....





RJ

[Celtics86]

Flag wavin’ and Bible Thumpin’-

These have been the primary propaganda tools used for millennia by the wealthy to keep the uneducated, ignorant working class on all fours with their pants around their ankles. In fact, this is so much the historic basis of the conservative success in turning these people against their own self interest, it really needs no further comment other than to express wonderment as to just how far people can bend over.



Do we have a deal for you Bubba! First we are going to pass laws to put your pot smoking brother in one strike you’re out zero tolerance Hell for the rest of his life and the hereafter. Then we’re going to let your asshole boss do whatever he wants to you. Next we are going to reduce any and all government help on your behalf. And lastly, we want to give you a couple of machine pistols so that you can more efficiently remove your fellow employees, friends and loved ones from the gene pool.




RJ

[Celtics86]

Resentment - The words you are reading here are a valid example of their complaint concerning the issue of liberal elitism, but what the Hell, someone has to say this. GOP propaganda has directed a seething hatred of liberals through two areas: the green-eyed monster of jealousy and the many facets of political correctness.



It goes like this: “Damn know-it-all elitist liberals thinking they know everything. I got me a GED, got a Big Friggin’ Gun, can count to almost 40 and know better than all those stinking college educated liberals what’s best for me, my family and my country!” Of course people who gain masters or doctorates in a specific area, practice that expertise for decades and after years of research write books on the subject are all idiots with no ability to understand a damn thing, unless of course, they have found the Lord or work for a conservative think-tank. And on it goes, “I know more about life than any of these do-goodin’ liberal elitists, I have a real life! I know more about the government than any of these college graduates educated by the Marxist University Establishment. I get the real news, the truth, from unbiased sources like Rush Limbaugh, Paul Harvey, Matt Drudge, the NRA and Fox News!”





RJ

[Celtics86]

Guilt - When we see the White-Wing all jumping up and down like baboons screaming for more executions and bigger guns, all the while striking out at our poorest; wouldn’t you know, some liberal comes along and has the gall to say that jumping up and down like baboons screaming for executions and bigger guns, all the while striking out at our poorest, is not the best advertisement for selling American values; traditional, Christian, family or otherwise. This of course is just what they want most not to hear, and Heaven forbid if they should hear it, they get madder, hate more, and become even more entrenched conservative lunatics than they were before. This is also the reason they have such an insatiable hatred of the media, for it too on rare occasion tells them things they can’t stand hearing, the truth.





RJ

[Celtics86]

Abortion

- No better than abortion. If it were not for the bombings, the arson, the murders, and the pain these righteous hypocrites cause to so many women, doctors and health care workers, this issue would be actually funny. Logic, reason and common sense have taken a back seat to what not a few Right-wing lunatics (posing as preachers) have wormed into these nitwits’ empty noggins. There does not exist a more flagrant hypocrisy in American politics, for not only are these the very same people who do everything in their power to decry sex education and deny distribution of birth control devices, they are also the people who, while screaming about individual freedom, advocating the death penalty and getting the damn government out of their lives, are in the same breath denying women their individual rights. This is not about a $20 license, this - besides execution and incarceration - is the most basic right the State can deny a woman; control of her own body and future. To force a woman into a dangerous illegal abortion, or else take 20 years of her life to bring up a child she does not want, is to deny women not only their liberty, their freedom, their civil rights, their legal rights, but their basic human rights as well.

This is not a complicated issue at all, it is simply that the rights of real people trump the rights of potential people.








RJ

[jordanrules23]

are you serious?

[Celtics86]

Gungoonery - is of course the second emotional issue and it is not funny in any context, it is not entertaining and is the major cause of violence in this society. It is about only two things; making a profit for the firearm industry and getting more conservative votes by playing on people’s fears - small minded people in dire need of metal in hand to compensate for their lack of mettle in character. It is probably the single most important reason the House of Representatives was taken over by the Lunatic Right in 1994.

When making your decision on handgun controls or “carry” legislation, wander back in life and recall all the confrontations you have witnessed or perhaps been a part of. Now ask yourself if any of those situations would have been better resolved had one or both parties a gun in their hand. It’s as easy as that to come to the truth of this matter.






RJ

[Celtics86]

are you serious?

Excellent post, jordanrules

[Celtics86]

The Seven Big Conservative lies:

1. Over Taxation- Second only to death as humanity’s greatest complaint. What better issue for elected officials to run on than reducing your taxes. It is a flat out political bribe, vote for me and I will give you money. In this ever growing conservative I-me-my-mine country of ours, it has become even more the mainstay issue of the Republican Party than ever. So not to be accused of using any liberal source here, let me refer to Rush Limbaugh who stated not long ago that our effective average individual Federal tax rate is 11%. In the middle of April any of us can add that, and all the rest up to find that the overall individual tax rate hovers around 30% no matter how you look it. Conservatives flat out lie in claiming it is 40% or even 50%. And the rest of the civilized world pays about 40%, which in the great spin of things makes us under taxed rather than over taxed. The conservative’s popular answer to all our economic woes is to place the blame on the government rather than the tried and true failures of borrow and spend Reaganomics, Voodoo Economics or the more aptly named Tinkle Down Yellow Rain. But whatever we call increasing military budgets while reducing taxes on the wealthy, it has created so much debt that we now pay one fifth of our federal taxes as interest on that bad idea.

2. The News Media holds a Liberal Bias - This lie is so enormous, so readily accepted, and so silly that we have little choice but to assume whoever says such a crazyass thing must be living on a different plane of existence than we. Suffice it to say that Fox News is the number one rated news source in America and the Wall Street Journal the largest daily print circulation other than Cheese Wiz Today.

3. Crime is Out of Control- Crime rates have changed little over the past 60 years, in fact, we are at the same rate we were in 1934 (after prohibition). Crime is the news, and it comes at us through that box ad nauseam making it seem much worse than it is. It is the easy story to report, it affects fewer people outside the ghettos than ever before, but when it does hit the white suburbs, it’s played over and over again as the lead story. Remember too, 40% of our justice and penal system is consumed by drug offenses, with 80% involved in drug and alcohol abuse of some sort. Fear of crime has been the great myth used by conservatives to destroy the 4th Amendment and warp the 2nd Amendment; causing us to embrace such fascist concepts as mandatory sentencing and three strikes you’re out laws, which has now made yet another generation of young people fearing and hating the police.

4. They are Going to Take Everyone’s Gun Away - Nowhere in the industrialized world is there a society so immersed in the gun mentality with so little control and so violent a nature. Even Switzerland, which the NRA often refers to as a nation of guns, not only requires every gun be registered, but that the owners be registered and regulated as active members of the Swiss Army. America is a gun-mad society with fewer legal arms controls and common sense than anywhere in the free world. To claim we are being denied our liberty and freedom to bear arms is beyond ludicrous. There is no movement by anyone to take guns away from anyone, that is a lie. Waiting periods, registration, seller licenses and background checks are not about taking guns away. Even the Assault Weapon Ban only concerned new purchases of a few foreign manufacturers.

5. Those Damn Other People are Ruining America- Affirmative Action, immigration and damn foreigners are all big issues these days, but the same basic bigotry towards the other has been the standard plank of fascism, racism, bigotry and conservatism throughout the ages. That big lie of blaming our failures on different looking people is as old as humanity.

6. The Evil Socialist Fascist Big Federal Government- One really has to wonder about this one. My God, Cowboy George, with the lock-step support of his conservative Republican following, has just created the biggest federal police force in American, and perhaps World history. This lie is mostly about one thing. The areas of the federal government they really perceive as evil, are those parts which demand equal protection for people of color, that generate social programs for people of color, that try to keep the environment viable, and which regulate some of their money. The Federal government locking people up, executing them or bombing the crap out of them is all fine and well.

7. Public Education has Failed - Conservative propaganda assaults us constantly that public education is a failure, mostly because of liberal teachers unions in control and not enough religious dogma presented. As such, the baby must be tossed out with the bath water and replaced by a system of religious indoctrination centers through a voucher system which will send hundreds of billions of our tax money to support the 700 Club, Liberty Baptist and overtly discriminating institutions like Bob Jones University. Also keep in mind that as the Republican success is mostly due to taking blue collar Reagan Democrats for a ride, they certainly don’t want them to get enough education to understand what’s being done to them.







RJ