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    What are your thoughts and opinions on the price tag given the fact the bill wouldn't be fully implemented until 2014ish but the taxes and cuts go into effect immediately? 4 years of taxes and cuts but not much to show for it, so what is the "true" price tag of 10 years of fully implemented bill?

    And lastly, if there has been over 1 year of "openess" to these negotiations, and there is a projected savings of 500 billion over 10 years in Medicare b/c of fraud and waste, and BOTH sides what fraud out of the system, why didn't they pass a bill immediately as opposed to watching 50 billion roll out the door in the past year?

    And if a Dem Congress has been in since 2007, does that mean they have been overseeing 150 billion in fraud while doing nothing? If that is the case, how can they be believed?




    I would prefer not to hear Bush, Bush Bush but rather some opinions on the above topics.

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      Wow, no one responded, i cant believe it!!!!!!!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by musclemann View Post
        Wow, no one responded, i cant believe it!!!!!!!!!
        I agree, wow. Certainly people can stop cutting and pasting and actually have a thought and opinion of their own don't you agree?

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        • #5
          These questions can't be answered because Obama is flying by the seat of his pants on it. Details like cost dont matter to him, just pass this for the power grab and his "legacy".
          NBA is a joke

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            Three years ago my 17 yr.old son was stricken by a rare virus . After a couple of weeks in the hospital , and undergoing chemo for six months , he beat the thing . Today he is healthy and attending college to be a juvenile officer. Now I don't know how many kids in this country are living without insurance , but I pray no child or there families will ever have to go through what we went through . Being a retired federal employee , I had insurance . Without it my tab would have been over $400,000.00 ! So from where I sit , I really don't care who is flying on what , without coverage my son would have died ! CASE EFFIN CLOSED !

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ChitownZ View Post
              Three years ago my 17 yr.old son was stricken by a rare virus . After a couple of weeks in the hospital , and undergoing chemo for six months , he beat the thing . Today he is healthy and attending college to be a juvenile officer. Now I don't know how many kids in this country are living without insurance , but I pray no child or there families will ever have to go through what we went through . Being a retired federal employee , I had insurance . Without it my tab would have been over $400,000.00 ! So from where I sit , I really don't care who is flying on what , without coverage my son would have died ! CASE EFFIN CLOSED !


              Theyre so many selfish people in this country its amazing. Some moron stood up and told them sadaam hussein was the cause of 9-11 and they were ready to spend 3-4 trillion dollars.........no questions asked.

              Remember these words........mission accomplished??????? 3trillion later........he has wmd's????????????


              They could care less about your son. They feel like since they have health insurance fuck you and your family. They would rather use their tax dollars to line the pockets of haliburton and dick cheney than help their fellow man... your son ....my son their neighbors son.

              Thats the republicans for you.....they're republicans until they lose their jobs or someone in their(immediate) family gets a catastrophic illness(an need a exploratory drug that their republican insurance company wont cover), then theyre scratching their heads in washington, or in the unemployment line using THAT SOCIALIST SYSTEM THEY BITCH ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


              Im glad your son got that help he needed and God bless him and you brother!
              Last edited by musclemann; 03-04-2010, 11:06 PM.

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              • #8
                Thanks , MM for the kind words ! Hey MM , YOU MEANT DICKLESS CHENEY DIDN'T YOU ?

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                  You guys are first class dick weeds. Do you really think Bush & Cheney dont care about your son or worse dont care if he lives or dies. Wrong! And what makes you think Obama does care. This push for healthcare is all a part of him trying to live up to the bullshit he said on the campaign trail. This country shells out more money to the rest of the world than any other country in the earths history. The United States is actually full of the most giving citizens the civilized world has ever seen. Im guessing you have never traveled outside of the country muscleman. You would not be so blind to this countries generosity if you had.
                  I did not have medical coverage for 5 years through some of college and then throgh flight school. I went out found a skilled job and now have health care. Through my un insured life I did not expect anyone to give anything to me, much less feel that I somehow deserved anything because I was an American. Thats pure stupidity.
                  Poor, less fortunate people have been voting for Democrats for 50 years and after 50 years they are still poor and less fortunate. There is a common denominator there and its not "Republican's are evil"
                  Last edited by bwade210; 03-04-2010, 11:37 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                    Theyre so many selfish people in this country its amazing. Some moron stood up and told them sadaam hussein was the cause of 9-11 and they were ready to spend 3-4 trillion dollars.........no questions asked.

                    Remember these words........mission accomplished??????? 3trillion later........he has wmd's????????????


                    They could care less about your son. They feel like since they have health insurance fuck you and your family. They would rather use their tax dollars to line the pockets of haliburton and dick cheney than help their fellow man... your son ....my son their neighbors son.

                    Thats the republicans for you.....they're republicans until they lose their jobs or someone in their(immediate) family gets a catastrophic illness(an need a exploratory drug that their republican insurance company wont cover), then theyre scratching their heads in washington, or in the unemployment line using THAT SOCIALIST SYSTEM THEY BITCH ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!


                    Im glad your son got that help he needed and God bless him and you brother!


                    Good responses to my questions for everyone above! Couldn't find any answers on Google. You certainly must have an opinion on those ?'s no? I mean, you can still be for this HC bill and have a better reply then Repubs, Bush, Palin, blah, blah.

                    Anyone who tries to explain off someone wishing another's child was raped certainly can have some intelligent thoughts on this piece of legislation.
                    Last edited by Jamaicanman; 03-04-2010, 11:45 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
                      You guys are first class dick weeds. Do you really think Bush & Cheney dont care about your son or worse dont care if he lives or dies. Wrong! And what makes you think Obama does care. This push for healthcare is all a part of him trying to live up to the bullshit he said on the campaign trail. This country shells out more money to the rest of the world than any other country in the earths history.
                      I did not have medical coverage for 5 years through some of college and then throgh flight school. I went out found a skilled job and now have health care. I did not expect anyone to give anything to me, much less feel that I somehow deserved anything because I was an American.



                      Wow, where did you go to school at for 5 years?

                      us dickweeds graduated from college knowing how to spell elementary words.

                      Maybe if you took your nose out of glenn becks playbook of etch and sketch you could figure out some simple thing like spelling. But your to busy hating obama and the democrats.

                      Do something you didnt do in college, research the worst health care systems in the world (OF THE TOP TEN COUNTRIES), spelling bee champ,then get back to us.

                      Until then remain a republican, until you need the help of this SOCIALIST SYSTEM..............

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post


                        Good responses to my questions for everyone above! Couldn't find any answers on Google. You certainly must have an opinion on those ?'s no? I mean, you can still be for this HC bill and have a better reply then Repubs, Bush, Palin, blah, blah.

                        Anyone who tries to explain off someone wishing another's child was raped certainly can have some intelligent thoughts on this piece of legislation.
                        I blame myself because no one had responded to your nonsense until I made a reply, you know why?because you cant even show your true screen name. Until you reveal who you really are im not responding to your anti-obama rhetoric. You didnt say 1 word while our country was being destroyed and attacked but now you have all the answers.(hypocrite)

                        g-bell or tonynicco, or whoever you are jaimancan man, have fun trolling the boards, I will not respond to you until you go back to your original screen name because you're a fraud and a hypocrite.
                        Last edited by musclemann; 03-04-2010, 11:58 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ChitownZ View Post
                          Three years ago my 17 yr.old son was stricken by a rare virus . After a couple of weeks in the hospital , and undergoing chemo for six months , he beat the thing . Today he is healthy and attending college to be a juvenile officer. Now I don't know how many kids in this country are living without insurance , but I pray no child or there families will ever have to go through what we went through . Being a retired federal employee , I had insurance . Without it my tab would have been over $400,000.00 ! So from where I sit , I really don't care who is flying on what , without coverage my son would have died ! CASE EFFIN CLOSED !
                          Glad to hear that your son has beaten his disease/illness. This is true for many people as they go broke with the absurd costs of insurance and what's left to pay afterwards. And for the ones that don't have it they end up broke, ruining their credit etc.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
                            You guys are first class dick weeds. Do you really think Bush & Cheney dont care about your son or worse dont care if he lives or dies. Wrong! And what makes you think Obama does care. This push for healthcare is all a part of him trying to live up to the bullshit he said on the campaign trail. This country shells out more money to the rest of the world than any other country in the earths history. The United States is actually full of the most giving citizens the civilized world has ever seen. Im guessing you have never traveled outside of the country muscleman. You would not be so blind to this countries generosity if you had.
                            I did not have medical coverage for 5 years through some of college and then throgh flight school. I went out found a skilled job and now have health care. Through my un insured life I did not expect anyone to give anything to me, much less feel that I somehow deserved anything because I was an American. Thats pure stupidity.
                            Poor, less fortunate people have been voting for Democrats for 50 years and after 50 years they are still poor and less fortunate. There is a common denominator there and its not "Republican's are evil"
                            Let's cut out the name calling.

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                            • #15
                              Sorry, I mispelled some words. I am typing on my IPhone and have big fingers. Nice job diverting the issue at hand. And Im not a "republican" per sey because I have and do vote for Dems and Independents that deserve my vote. But I am a Conservative.
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