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  • Some Republicans Fret That Opposition To New Obama Measures Could Seriously Backfire

    Some senior Republican strategists and party veterans are beginning to fret that the party's refusal to work with President Obama, even when he crosses onto their own philosophical turf, could ultimately erode some of the political gains they've made this past year.

    Over the past two weeks, Republicans in Congress have united in nearly unanimous opposition to a series of ideologically conservative policy suggestions, starting with a commission to reduce the deficit, a pay-go provision that would limit new expenditures, and a spending freeze on non-military programs.

    Opposition has usually been based on specific policy concerns or complaints that the measures aren't going far enough. But the message being sent is that the GOP's sole mission is presidential destruction.
    Now, some in the party are beginning to worry.

    "I can't tell you why they are taking this approach," said Jim Kolbe, a former member of Congress and longtime fiscal hawk from Arizona. "I have doubts about some of them myself but I think that certainly the pay-go and the commission have some merit and we should be supporting those. I don't have an answer to this. Whether this is just part of them being philosophically opposed or are they just being obstructionists, I don't know?

    "I do think there is that worry [that we come off as obstructionists]," Kolbe added. "I think this thing can turn around just as fast as it turned against the Democrats, it can turn the other way if the Republican don't respond with serious proposals here."

    In the past, Republicans have supported similar proposals. Four Republican Senators who in 2006 backed a pay-go measure that would require Congress to offset every dollar spent with other funds voted against the measure in 2010. The cap on discretionary, non-military spending that had members of Obama's own party howling in horror was pulled from Republican John McCain's own presidential campaign platform -- and yet, the Arizona Republican said this past week that the president now wasn't going far enough. Five GOP Senators who co-sponsored a debt commission bill that would recommend deficit-cutting measures for Congress to vote on then rejected the idea when it came up for a vote this week.

    "I think the bottom line is you have to look at them bill by bill," said Ed Rollins, a long time Republican strategist. "The reality is the things where consistently the Republicans have been in the past, like pay as you go, I think we should be supportive of. That is the place where we should go.

    "You should be able to find common ground. If you engage on things that are basically consistent with your ideology, it will give you more credibility in arguing things that aren't," Rollins added. "The drill can't be to just make Obama look bad. The stimulus bill was legitimate to oppose. But if the next jobs bill is really something that will create jobs and benefit America then I think there will be a lot of Republicans supportive of it. And there should be.

    "If the president was smart," Rolllins said, "he would keep putting these things into individual bills without poison pill ad ons and make Republicans vote."

    Some Republicans objections, of course, are not solely based in Obama-rejection. Grover Norquist's group, Americans For Tax Reform, for example, has put out several policy papers imploring Republicans to vote against the debt commission out of fear that it would lead to tax increases. Kolbe called the idea of a spending cap "useless" because of the insignificant dent it would actually make on the debt.

    But the rejection of measures that would limit government spending - especially at a time when the Republican Party is trying sidle up closer to the anti-government spending tea party movement -- could be politically damaging. So in the long run, the Republican Party could hurt itself by not meeting Obama part way.

    Some Republicans Fret That Opposition To New Obama Measures Could Seriously Backfire

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    The Huffington Post........fair and balanced



    Why should anyone work with a guy who slams the supreme court like a baby on national TV? He will blame anyone he can for his problems.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
      The Huffington Post........fair and balanced



      Why should anyone work with a guy who slams the supreme court like a baby on national TV? He will blame anyone he can for his problems.
      Hilarious. How do you think he should go about trying to get things done, rather than hold people accountable? Since when does a baby slam or blame things? Calling him baby, is only showing your true colors. You want him and this country to fail so bad. Well it's not gonna happen, you buddy is out of office, he did enough damage for 6 terms. It can't get any worse.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
        Hilarious. How do you think he should go about trying to get things done, rather than hold people accountable? Since when does a baby slam or blame things? Calling him baby, is only showing your true colors. You want him and this country to fail so bad. Well it's not gonna happen, you buddy is out of office, he did enough damage for 6 terms. It can't get any worse.



        Did not know GW Bush had 6 terms


        I would rather Obama not get anything done. He has no idea how to run a business much less a country
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        • #5
          Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
          Did not know GW Bush had 6 terms


          I would rather Obama not get anything done. He has no idea how to run a business much less a country
          For 6 terms to come. Great. So everything's just gonna be miserable for you, until another Republican is there?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
            Did not know GW Bush had 6 terms


            I would rather Obama not get anything done. He has no idea how to run a business much less a country
            Bush ran an oil business, how did that go?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
              For 6 terms to come. Great. So everything's just gonna be miserable for you, until another Republican is there?



              I am not miserable, in fact it is laughable to see all the angry libs in the media trying to save this narcicist's legacy.

              Chris Mathews even says he forgot he was a black man during the speech. Harry Reid might agree since he is light skinned. Your leaders are obsessed with race and this is a slap to all blacks.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
                For 6 terms to come. Great. So everything's just gonna be miserable for you, until another Republican is there?

                Why do you even bother B.W? You know he is biased and isnt open minded at all and would rather see the president fail than succeed. He spent 8 years apologizing for one of the worst presidents in the history of the united states. Now he is spending the first 13 months bashing a guy who been in office over a year. All of his arguments are slanted to fit his agenda. Let him and the other one trade one liners like they did the other night during his state of the union. I loved it, no one responded to there trash talk. They sat there talkd to each other the whole night and no one else bothered because the guys around here know they hate obama and its a waste of time to argue with these two.

                Let them keep hating and being bitter.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                  Why do you even bother B.W? You know he is biased and isnt open minded at all and would rather see the president fail than succeed. He spent 8 years apologizing for one of the worst presidents in the history of the united states. Now he is spending the first 13 months bashing a guy who been in office over a year. All of his arguments are slanted to fit his agenda. Let him and the other one trade one liners like they did the other night during his state of the union. I loved it, no one responded to there trash talk. They sat there talkd to each other the whole night and no one else bothered because the guys around here know they hate obama and its a waste of time to argue with these two.

                  Let them keep hating and being bitter.
                  I have no idea why. I need to know where these people are living, where life is so bad. Why do they want him to fail so bad? Is it because they are just so embarrassed about Bush? I never want any President to fail. I just don't get it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
                    I am not miserable, in fact it is laughable to see all the angry libs in the media trying to save this narcicist's legacy.

                    Chris Mathews even says he forgot he was a black man during the speech. Harry Reid might agree since he is light skinned. Your leaders are obsessed with race and this is a slap to all blacks.
                    You want Obama to fail, which means the country would fail. All you do is post negative stuff about how terrible everything is going. How are they obsessed with race?

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                    • #11
                      When Obama was elected,I never wanted him to fail.Hell,Im a registered Dem,but its clear to me that the Democratic party is going so far left that I cant support it anymore.I cant stand Pelosi,Reid and Frank.Hell Obama's just a pawn.He cant shit without them saying when and how.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Big Country 5 View Post
                        When Obama was elected,I never wanted him to fail.Hell,Im a registered Dem,but its clear to me that the Democratic party is going so far left that I cant support it anymore.I cant stand Pelosi,Reid and Frank.Hell Obama's just a pawn.He cant shit without them saying when and how.

                        See Big,

                        You are open minded, you gave him a chance. I love how BW and MM call me close minded. The Bush blaming crowd are so open-minded.

                        Obama has shut out all Republicans in negotiations which went on behind closed doors. If it were not for the few Democrats who stood up, he could have pushed his agenda thru. The Matt Brown win in Mass. is just the start and you can blame that loss directly on Obama.
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                        • #13
                          Whats changed since Obama has been in office?!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by bwade210 View Post
                            Whats changed since Obama has been in office?!
                            Been asking MM for over a week with no answer. He can't answer w/o a race comment. So don't expect anything other then "Dow is up"as an answer from anyone!!

                            Really funny thing about the article posted is the biased sentence about Repubs opposing the deficit commission. Nearly as many Dems voted against also, but no mention oddly.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jamaicanman View Post
                              Been asking MM for over a week with no answer. He can't answer w/o a race comment. So don't expect anything other then "Dow is up"as an answer from anyone!!

                              Really funny thing about the article posted is the biased sentence about Repubs opposing the deficit commission. Nearly as many Dems voted against also, but no mention oddly.
                              other than


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