Abu Jamal back on death row

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Supreme Court setback for Mumia Abu-Jamal
Justices throw out a ruling that had set aside the death sentence of the former Black Panther, convicted of killing a police officer in 1981.


Associated Press

January 20, 2010


Philadelphia - The Supreme Court on Tuesday threw out a ruling that had set aside the death sentence of Mumia Abu-Jamal, convicted of killing a Philadelphia police officer in the 1980s in a racially tinged case that has made the former Black Panther an international cause celebre.

The justices ordered the U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia to revisit its 2008 ruling that Abu-Jamal deserved a new sentencing hearing because of flawed jury instructions.

The Supreme Court pointed to its decision in an Ohio case last week, when it said a neo-Nazi killer did not deserve a new sentencing hearing on those grounds.

A mostly white Philadelphia jury convicted Abu-Jamal of killing white Officer Daniel Faulkner in 1981.

Prosecutors think Faulkner and Abu-Jamal exchanged gunfire after Abu-Jamal's brother was pulled over in a traffic stop. A wounded Abu-Jamal, his own gun lying nearby, was still at the scene when police arrived, and authorities consider the evidence against him overwhelming.

But he maintains his innocence. Since his conviction, activists in the United States and Europe have rallied in support of his claim that he was the victim of a racist justice system.

The issue over jury instructions relates to whether jurors understood how to weigh mitigating circumstances that might have kept Abu-Jamal off death row.





What a liberal slant on even this story, "a mostly white jury"

Are they insinuating that white jurors cant make a judgement on the case without race bias



Anyone who knows anything about this case in which there were eye witnesses know this guy should have been sent to the gas chamber years ago. The out of touch celebrities who took up his side and wanted him free are really dispicable.



These are the facts of this tragedy:

On Dec. 9, 1981, Officer Faulkner made a traffic stop on Abu-Jamal's brother, Billy Cook, who put up a fight. Abu-Jamal happened upon the scene, and shooting began. Faulkner ended up dead, and Abu-Jamal was shot in the chest.

A gun registered to Abu-Jamal, with five chambers empty, was on the sidewalk. Four witnesses who saw all or part of the shooting implicated Abu-Jamal. One witness said that after Faulkner went down, Abu-Jamal stood over him and sealed the deal with a bullet through the head.

And yet an international crusade to free Mumia--fueled by endorsements from Hollywood celebrities including Susan Sarandon, Paul Newman, Ossie Davis, Ed Asner, Tim Robbins and Alec Baldwin-- has had people marching in the streets from Africa to Asia and beyond.





Alec Baldwin!!! Monte's news source

[KazDog]

What a liberal slant on even this story, "a mostly white jury"

Are they insinuating that white jurors cant make a judgement on the case without race bias

This is where you and I are at completely opposite ends. To say that is a Liberal slant is ludicrous. You have no news writing knowledge to make such a claim. None.

That is an accurate description of the jurors. Anytime you are writing a story you are taught to paint a picture to the best of your abilities. If it was a mostly white jury, the people reading the story should be privy to that.

No reporter or editor that's has any clue would leave that out or delete that from the story. It's an essential element in ANY court story to include a description of the jury. Esp in a death penalty decision from the Supreme Court. It has zero to do with being Liberal.

KAZ

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Justice is blind Kaz....your a writer so maybe you dont know that........we dont need that detail unless the lib writer wants to stir up race and get a reaction.


What makes you think you know anything about my news writing knowledge? This is the problem with Lib journalists, they are not supposed to be writing a "story", this is supposed to be "news". Stories like this are why dumb ass celebrities start hating cops and the legal system.

Now go ahead and get the last word in since you are never wrong.

[KazDog]

Justice is blind Kaz....your a writer so maybe you dont know that........we dont need that detail unless the lib writer wants to stir up race and get a reaction.


What makes you think you know anything about my news writing knowledge? This is the problem with Lib journalists, they are not supposed to be writing a "story", this is supposed to be "news". Stories like this are why dumb ass celebrities start hating cops and the legal system.

Now go ahead and get the last word in since you are never wrong.

Why does it always have to be about race man? You guys are the ones always bringing it up and talking about the "double standard."

If this was a black guy that got acquitted by an all black jury or mostly black jury for murdering a cop, and the story made NO mention that there was a mostly/all black jury, you'd be the first in here complaining that the story was Liberal bias because the writer didn't say anything about the jury's race.

And I would be just as pissed if they left that detail out of the story if the table was turned. Any news writer knows, and you can ask any one of them, you most definitely include in a story like that, that it was a mostly white jury. You write to be as descriptive as possible on ALL accounts. Either way. You are painting a picture for the reader.

FWIW.....I'm not a news writer.

And I know you're not a news writer. A news writer knows the difference between "your" and "you're".

KAZCAT

[***THA FIX***]

Yall, please dont tell Muscle Head, I mean Muscle Man!!!

[***THA FIX***]

Just blame it on either Vick or Whitey

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[QUOTE=KazDog;1762976]Why does it always have to be about race man?

The press is obsessed with it and keeps shoveling it man, what are you talking about? The story is in the "news", I didn't make it up.


You guys are the ones always bringing it up and talking about the "double standard."

My point was the writers obvious predudice, stick to the point and focus.


If this was a black guy that got acquitted by an all black jury or mostly black jury for murdering a cop, and the story made NO mention that there was a mostly/all black jury, you'd be the first in here complaining that the story was Liberal bias because the writer didn't say anything about the jury's race.

That is flat out wrong where is your proof nof any of that?


And I would be just as pissed if they left that detail out of the story if the table was turned. Any news writer knows (Since you are NOT a news writer, dont act like you know because you don't) , and you can ask any one of them, you most definitely include in a story like that, that it was a mostly white jury. You write to be as descriptive as possible on ALL accounts.

Either way. You are painting a picture for the reader. Keep painting pictures and stop reporting the unbiased news, see how fast they are going out of business! Air America, NY Times etc.




FWIW.....I'm not a news writer.

And I know you're not a news writer. A news writer knows the difference between "your" and "you're".

I never claimed to know what all news writers know, like you have all mighty knowing, all great one.

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I bring this story up cause this POS should have been executed right in the street just like he did to the policeman.

[Guns]

Why does it always have to be about race man? You guys are the ones always bringing it up and talking about the "double standard."

If this was a black guy that got acquitted by an all black jury or mostly black jury for murdering a cop, and the story made NO mention that there was a mostly/all black jury, you'd be the first in here complaining that the story was Liberal bias because the writer didn't say anything about the jury's race.

And I would be just as pissed if they left that detail out of the story if the table was turned. Any news writer knows, and you can ask any one of them, you most definitely include in a story like that, that it was a mostly white jury. You write to be as descriptive as possible on ALL accounts. Either way. You are painting a picture for the reader.

FWIW.....I'm not a news writer.

And I know you're not a news writer. A news writer knows the difference between "your" and "you're".
KAZCAT

Kaz, I can tell that you are not a professional writer. A professional would not point out spelling or punctuation errors unless they are attempting to deflect the attention from the text of their message.

Psychology suggests you feel you are slightly superior, yet insecure by publicly mentioning a slight spelling error.

Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you say. Trying to demean others in a public way is not a subject we agree on.

[KazDog]

Kaz, I can tell that you are not a professional writer. A professional would not point out spelling or punctuation errors unless they are attempting to deflect the attention from the text of their message.

Psychology suggests you feel you are slightly superior, yet insecure by publicly mentioning a slight spelling error.

Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you say. Trying to demean others in a public way is not a subject we agree on.

I was making a joke out of his error, hence the after I said it.

And no Flare I'm not a news writer, but I've been in the journalism profession for the past 25 years. Does it make me qualified to answer what a news writer should and shouldn't do in a news story? I would hope so....

The only prejudice was yours because you see race as an issue in just about everything you see. It's always black and white with you. Somehow you feel like you're getting a bad deal because of the color of your skin.

And, I was merely pointing out an example if the situation was flipped. If it was an all black jury and he was acquitted, and there was no mention of the jury being black, you would have been in here complaining about that.

The job of a news writer is to be descriptive. Calling it a mostly white jury was descriptive and 100% correct as far as how the reporting should have been. If the writer left it out, the first question asked would have been, what did the jury look like?

[Guns]

I was making a joke out of his error, hence the after I said it.

And no Flare I'm not a news writer, but I've been in the journalism profession for the past 25 years. Does it make me qualified to answer what a news writer should and shouldn't do in a news story? I would hope so....

The only prejudice was yours because you see race as an issue in just about everything you see. It's always black and white with you. Somehow you feel like you're getting a bad deal because of the color of your skin.

And, I was merely pointing out an example if the situation was flipped. If it was an all black jury and he was acquitted, and there was no mention of the jury being black, you would have been in here complaining about that.

The job of a news writer is to be descriptive. Calling it a mostly white jury was descriptive and 100% correct as far as how the reporting should have been. If the writer left it out, the first question asked would have been, what did the jury look like?

Ok Kaz, no offense. Good luck with your career and plays.

Sarcasm is a hard thing to pick up on a keyboard.

[KazDog]

Ok Kaz, no offense. Good luck with your career and plays.

Sarcasm is a hard thing to pick up on a keyboard.

No offense taken Guns. Flare and I have gone round and round on many issues. And I totally agree about sarcasm on a keyboard. Good luck with your plays as well.

KAZ

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Yall, please dont tell Muscle Head, I mean Muscle Man!!!

Its kinda funny the same racist bullshit talked around here are from the same guys south of the mason dixon line. Lets take a look at the cast of characters we have FLARE, VOLS FANS, THA FIX I have no doubt in my mind what you guys were doing in the early 70's and early eighties. If you were a little older Im sure if I searched the old tapes of the civil rights marches what side of the line you guys would be on.

Keep hiding behind your computer DANIEL CARVER. You bring me up in your nonsensical bullshit posts I will hit back southie.

[musclemann]

Why does it always have to be about race man? You guys are the ones always bringing it up and talking about the "double standard."

If this was a black guy that got acquitted by an all black jury or mostly black jury for murdering a cop, and the story made NO mention that there was a mostly/all black jury, you'd be the first in here complaining that the story was Liberal bias because the writer didn't say anything about the jury's race.

And I would be just as pissed if they left that detail out of the story if the table was turned. Any news writer knows, and you can ask any one of them, you most definitely include in a story like that, that it was a mostly white jury. You write to be as descriptive as possible on ALL accounts. Either way. You are painting a picture for the reader.

FWIW.....I'm not a news writer.

And I know you're not a news writer. A news writer knows the difference between "your" and "you're".

KAZCAT

You know why it has to be about race with this guy kaz. He is obsessed with race and obviously filled with hate towards people who are minorities. Maybe its because of all the so called freebies that 'we' minorities receive,(lol) he hated a fact that a minority was elected president, he hates the fact that in the next 20 years he will be listed as a minority and he hates the fact that the united states in changing the way it looks at things.

Its so funny that flare and his other southern buddies love to throw around the race card when without a doubt theyre the ones with the most outright racists attitude that exist in this country.


It doesnt matter kaz he will keep hating. Thanks for calling him out on it.

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You know why it has to be about race with this guy kaz. He is obsessed with race and obviously filled with hate towards people who are minorities. Maybe its because of all the so called freebies that 'we' minorities receive,(lol) he hated a fact that a minority was elected president, he hates the fact that in the next 20 years he will be listed as a minority and he hates the fact that the united states in changing the way it looks at things.

Its so funny that flare and his other southern buddies love to throw around the race card when without a doubt theyre the ones with the most outright racists attitude that exist in this country.


It doesnt matter kaz he will keep hating. Thanks for calling him out on it.

You will never get it Raceman. Why would an article mention a mostly white jury??? Cant answer that without going off on your usual tangent. Looks like the race card gets thrown out and when I call em on it you get all defensive.

Keep racism alive MM, you are probably the same type who wants this POS free just because of race.