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    How anyone with any common sense can back this idiot up is beyond me!! It really is ... Oh I know lefty ... it is Bush's fault ..








    When politicians are caught out in lies, their supporters often resort to the old cliché: all politicians lie. But that is itself a lie: most don’t. Even among those who do, there are enormous differences in the importance and frequency of the lies. And it is surely now clear that this nation has a far from routine problem in the scale and regularity of President Obama’s lying.

    When politicians lie they are usually trying to avoid political damage, or to make themselves look good. Bill Clinton lied (and got himself impeached) to save himself from embarrassment about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Hillary Clinton lied about being under fire in Bosnia to enhance her non-existent foreign affairs profile. Richard Nixon was forced from office because he lied to cover up his involvement in a political dirty trick. John Kerry lied about his Vietnam combat experience to blunt his anti-military reputation. But Barack Obama’s lies are far more corrosive and destructive, because they go the heart of legislation and governance, and so seriously undermine trust in government. His lies generally take a specific form: they attempt to persuade people to vote for him or his policies by categorically assuring them that they need not have the anxieties that they have been expressing. The lies say, essentially: trust me, support what I want, and I promise that what you fear will never happen. But in every case it soon becomes clear either that he knew perfectly well that what the public feared would in fact happen, or that he was giving a firm assurance that he was in no position to give, or that he had no intention of following through on his promise.

    The accumulated weight of Obama’s deceit is overwhelming:

    * During his campaign for the presidency and since, Obama repeatedly assured us that he would protect Medicare against cuts; but he now presses for passage of bills that include savage cuts in Medicare.

    * To obtain passage of his first stimulus bill, Obama assured us that 90% of the jobs created would be in the private sector; but as he well knew, most of them were to be in the public sector.

    * Early in the health care debate, Obama assured us that he had not said that he favored a single payer system; but he was on record as having said exactly that.

    * Obama gave primary voters a firm assurance that if he became the nominee of the Democratic party he would (unlike Hillary Clinton) abide by the campaign finance limits of public funding; but as soon as he became the party’s nominee, he reneged on that pledge.

    * During the presidential campaign Obama criticized the presence of former lobbyists in the Bush administration and solemnly assured us that he would appoint no lobbyists to his administration; but once elected he proceeded to appoint even more lobbyists than his predecessors.

    * Obama criticized the size of George Bush’s deficit and promised to stop deficit spending if elected; but he has already quadrupled the size of the deficit he objected to and recklessly continues new federal spending in the trillions.

    * When campaigning Obama criticized bills before the congress that were too long for anyone to be able to read and promised to stop that; but the bills he has been backing throughout his first year are infinitely longer (2000+ pages) than the ones he criticized.

    * Candidate Obama promised an end to the corruption of earmarks and pork, but in the bills he has supported this year there have been more and bigger earmarks than ever before.

    * Candidate Obama promised us that CIA personnel involved in the interrogation of terrorists would not be prosecuted; but his administration is now doing exactly that.

    * Obama assured a joint session of Congress that the health bill he supported (pre-Stupak) would not provide public funding for abortions; but bitter resistance on the part of House Democrats to inclusion of language to that effect soon proved that it did.

    * Candidate Obama promised that he would make sure that there was always enough time for the public to read legislation before it was enacted; but he has done exactly the opposite, repeatedly pressing for even faster passage of even longer bills.

    * Candidate Obama met fears that he would be a tax and spend liberal by promising, emphatically and repeatedly, that those earning under $200,000 would see no increase in their taxes of any kind; but he now urges passage of a healthcare bill that breaks that pledge in many different ways, and his unrestrained increase in federal spending makes more tax increases inevitable.

    * Candidate Obama promised bipartisanship and an end to partisan bickering; but in a display of especially ruthless partisanship his allies have shut Republicans out of all key meetings on his health care initiative, with the unprecedented result that domestic legislation of historic importance garnered not a single Republican vote in the Senate.

    * Candidate Obama criticized his opponent’s plan to tax employer paid healthcare benefits, and promised he would not tax them; but the bill he now backs will do just that.

    * Obama had promised that he would not sign a healthcare bill that would add one dime to the federal deficit; but the bill he now backs adds trillions in new federal spending, offset only by new sources of revenue that are both uncertain and more properly seen as offsetting the already existing deficit.

    * Obama coerced congress into passing his stimulus bill by promising that if it were passed unemployment could go no higher then 8%; but unemployment is now at 10%, and he could not possibly have had good reason to exclude that possibility.

    * Obama promised that his cap and trade legislation will create jobs; but its massive tax increases will certainly hobble the economy and destroy jobs, while green jobs in significant numbers can at best be hoped for, but never promised.

    * Obama has repeatedly assured the American people that if they like their current health plan they can keep it; but the House bill which he supported created huge incentives for employers to drop their coverage and shift their members to a public option.

    * Obama has just as often assured the public that under his health plan everyone will be able to keep their current doctor; but many are certain to lose their doctors when ObamaCare’s large cuts in Medicare funding induce more doctors to withdraw from Medicare coverage, as they also would were employers to transfer patients to a public option to save money.

    * Obama assured a joint session of Congress that his health plan would not fund illegal aliens; but his allies had been busy voting down amendments to that effect. (This was the point of Joe Wilson’s outburst.)

    * Obama claimed that John Deere’s CEO had told him that Deere would begin hiring again as a result of the stimulus bill; but that individual immediately announced that he had said no such thing, and that Deere would in fact be laying off more workers.

    * Candidate Obama promised that Guantanamo would be closed by January 1, 2010; but it is still open.

    * Candidate Obama promised that his administration (unlike his predecessor’s) would be so transparent that TV cameras (C-Span) would be there for key deliberations; but an unprecedented level of secrecy prevails as the final stages of Obamacare are negotiated behind closed doors and kept so secret that even the Senate majority whip admitted that he had no idea what was going on. Requests for Obama to honor the promise of C-Span cameras are being ignored.

    * To gain traction for his attempt to return a would-be socialist dictator in Honduras to power, Obama claimed that he had been overthrown in an illegal coup; but the congressional research service pointed out correctly that ex-President Zelaya had been removed for constitutionally sufficient cause by legal and constitutional means.

    * Obama claims that he wants a public option only to increase choice and competition; but the House bill would clearly reduce choice both by squeezing unsubsidized private health plans out of the market, and by setting rigid conditions on acceptable plans that would narrow available options.

    * Candidate Obama claimed that violent radical Bill Ayers was just another guy in his neighborhood; but the record shows that the two had worked closely together.

    * Obama assured us that his stimulus bill would create or save a million jobs; but he was claiming as fact what could never have been more than a wild (and highly improbable) guess, and his more recent attempts to justify that guess have been fraudulent.

    * Obama assured us that his health plan would never ration care, or “pull the plug” on grandma; but the legislation he backs sets up panels to make crucial decisions on when to withhold care, and it makes such deep cuts in Medicare that rationing is inevitable.

    * Obama now assures us that health insurance premiums will not go up if ObamaCare becomes law, insisting indignantly that people who say this have not read the bill; but the legislation forces insurers to cover preexisting conditions, which will compel them to raise premiums substantially.

    This is an extraordinary record of serial mendacity. One or two instances might charitably be regarded as rash promises later regretted, or as the wishful thinking of someone who had not thought through the implications of what he was saying. But when it happens again and again—and my 30 instances are by no means exhaustive—only one judgment seems possible: this is the record of a habitual, shameless liar, a man who will say anything to get what he wants. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, goes the old saying. But scores of times? How shameful is that for our society when this disgraceful record is never the subject of a reproachful editorial in the New York Times, the Washington Post, or CBS news? Richard Nixon was removed from office, and Bill Clinton impeached for a single lie. Who could look at Obama’s record without concluding that his lying is in a completely different league to theirs?

    President Obama evidently believes that he can solve any problem with a speech. But he really does not care whether what he says is true or not, nor does he feel any responsibility to honor the assurances and promises he makes. As a result, this nation is now in a position where it cannot believe a word that he says, and that amounts to an unprecedented crisis of confidence in the Presidency. Democratic government will atrophy if we allow lying on this scale to count as the business as usual of politics. When will the press and the Congress hold him accountable?

  • #2
    More and more when I see your overall hate for obama its astounding to me. I dont care one bit if you supported bush or not BUT WHEN THE GUY HAD BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 30 DAYS YOU WERE DRUMMING UP THE HATE SPEECHES AGAINST HIM. At least I waited for bush to obtain some type of record before I started putting out the negative things he was up to but you started almost immediately with anti-obama campaign, I mean the bushs hadnt left the white house yet and your ANTI-OBAMA campaign was in full swing. I wont go into the previous administration record because that doesnt seem to matter to certain people in this country and then they act as if he was in office 2 centuries ago. But the thing thats most upsetting is the facts. The facts suggest that when I search for previous negative comments after catastrophies, financial meltdowns, terrorists attacks,political blunders, just stupid remarks made and a hosts of other screwups.......YOURE TOTALLY QUIET!!!Its strange and funny at the same time.

    You can say what you want spark I know you could give a rats ass about my thoughts and opinions and I could care less if your biased because of the mans skin color or you just hate him to hate but when I go through the logs here created at bettorschat I see some disturbing comments youve made towards me, grandma, and buddyluv. I accepted your apology for some comments directed towards me before but now im thinking that maybe those comments werent a mistake. Like I said if this was demonstrated before on your part I would understand but for all of this HATE TO JUST START COMING OUT SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE

    COULD YOU IMAGINE IF 9-11 HAD HAPPENED ON HIS WATCH WHAT YOU WOULD BE SAYING??

    (Just one mans opinion) you can rip me apart spark or do what you need to but the 10000'S OF NEGATIVES COMMENTS(AND 1000 OF DISREPECTFUL CARTOONS) THAT STARTED BEFORE HE EVER TOOK HIS FIRST STEPS ON THE WHITE HOUSE MAKES YOU WONDER ......WHATS YOU MOTIVATION?

    No hate intended just an honest evaluation. Have a good weekend like I ALREADY KNOW IM NOT GOING TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION AND IM SURE YOU COULD CARELESS ABOUT MINE.
    I mean I understand people like insidepol and a couple of others motivation but I always believed you to be unbiased and openminded...............I cant believe that anymore man. Take care.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by musclemann View Post
      More and more when I see your overall hate for obama its astounding to me. I dont care one bit if you supported bush or not BUT WHEN THE GUY HAD BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 30 DAYS YOU WERE DRUMMING UP THE HATE SPEECHES AGAINST HIM. At least I waited for bush to obtain some type of record before I started putting out the negative things he was up to but you started almost immediately with anti-obama campaign, I mean the bushs hadnt left the white house yet and your ANTI-OBAMA campaign was in full swing. I wont go into the previous administration record because that doesnt seem to matter to certain people in this country and then they act as if he was in office 2 centuries ago. But the thing thats most upsetting is the facts. The facts suggest that when I search for previous negative comments after catastrophies, financial meltdowns, terrorists attacks,political blunders, just stupid remarks made and a hosts of other screwups.......YOURE TOTALLY QUIET!!!Its strange and funny at the same time.

      You can say what you want spark I know you could give a rats ass about my thoughts and opinions and I could care less if your biased because of the mans skin color or you just hate him to hate but when I go through the logs here created at bettorschat I see some disturbing comments youve made towards me, grandma, and buddyluv. I accepted your apology for some comments directed towards me before but now im thinking that maybe those comments werent a mistake. Like I said if this was demonstrated before on your part I would understand but for all of this HATE TO JUST START COMING OUT SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE

      COULD YOU IMAGINE IF 9-11 HAD HAPPENED ON HIS WATCH WHAT YOU WOULD BE SAYING??

      (Just one mans opinion) you can rip me apart spark or do what you need to but the 10000'S OF NEGATIVES COMMENTS(AND 1000 OF DISREPECTFUL CARTOONS) THAT STARTED BEFORE HE EVER TOOK HIS FIRST STEPS ON THE WHITE HOUSE MAKES YOU WONDER ......WHATS YOU MOTIVATION?

      No hate intended just an honest evaluation. Have a good weekend like I ALREADY KNOW IM NOT GOING TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION AND IM SURE YOU COULD CARELESS ABOUT MINE.
      I mean I understand people like insidepol and a couple of others motivation but I always believed you to be unbiased and openminded...............I cant believe that anymore man. Take care.
      MM, so are you hating Obama yet? Surely he has sufficiently lied enough to make you realize he is everything that he said he wasn't. He is the exact same as any other corrupt politician. Promises change, promises the world, and once elected he does the complete opposite. There is no way an objective person can sit back and respect what he has done so far as president. The guy is a shamelses liar.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by musclemann View Post
        More and more when I see your overall hate for obama its astounding to me. I dont care one bit if you supported bush or not BUT WHEN THE GUY HAD BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 30 DAYS YOU WERE DRUMMING UP THE HATE SPEECHES AGAINST HIM. At least I waited for bush to obtain some type of record before I started putting out the negative things he was up to but you started almost immediately with anti-obama campaign, I mean the bushs hadnt left the white house yet and your ANTI-OBAMA campaign was in full swing. I wont go into the previous administration record because that doesnt seem to matter to certain people in this country and then they act as if he was in office 2 centuries ago. But the thing thats most upsetting is the facts. The facts suggest that when I search for previous negative comments after catastrophies, financial meltdowns, terrorists attacks,political blunders, just stupid remarks made and a hosts of other screwups.......YOURE TOTALLY QUIET!!!Its strange and funny at the same time.

        You can say what you want spark I know you could give a rats ass about my thoughts and opinions and I could care less if your biased because of the mans skin color or you just hate him to hate but when I go through the logs here created at bettorschat I see some disturbing comments youve made towards me, grandma, and buddyluv. I accepted your apology for some comments directed towards me before but now im thinking that maybe those comments werent a mistake. Like I said if this was demonstrated before on your part I would understand but for all of this HATE TO JUST START COMING OUT SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE

        COULD YOU IMAGINE IF 9-11 HAD HAPPENED ON HIS WATCH WHAT YOU WOULD BE SAYING??

        (Just one mans opinion) you can rip me apart spark or do what you need to but the 10000'S OF NEGATIVES COMMENTS(AND 1000 OF DISREPECTFUL CARTOONS) THAT STARTED BEFORE HE EVER TOOK HIS FIRST STEPS ON THE WHITE HOUSE MAKES YOU WONDER ......WHATS YOU MOTIVATION?

        No hate intended just an honest evaluation. Have a good weekend like I ALREADY KNOW IM NOT GOING TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION AND IM SURE YOU COULD CARELESS ABOUT MINE.
        I mean I understand people like insidepol and a couple of others motivation but I always believed you to be unbiased and openminded...............I cant believe that anymore man. Take care.

        I think the Kool-Aid is getting to you ... what comments have I made to you, grandmama and buddylove?? I have no idea what you are talking about ...

        Oh and btw, how about what I just posted in this thread?? How come you did not comment on that??

        I can give 2 shits about his skin color ... you do not even know me well enough to make that comment ... go look in the mirror and tell me who is the prejudice one around here ... and you made that perfectly clear ...

        I will be waiting for your response regarding the "disturbing comments" I have made ... pls give me the links ...
        Last edited by Spark; 01-21-2010, 08:25 PM.

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        • #5
          MM,for everything Spark has said about Obama you have an equal amount of posts against Bush.Should we assume your racist like your "KINDA" assuming Spark is.How many post have you posted that has the words,Bush,9-11,Bush's war and so on.Your kind of going over the line a little with spark.You have assumed I'm a racist cause I'm southern and say yall all the time.Thats fine if I fit the stereotype.I can't change my roots or the way I talk.But Spark,come on man,he ain't been nothing but respectful to everyone and don't like Obama.Are you racist MM cause you bash Bush all the time? I would really like to know.Let it all out

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            • #7
              Originally posted by musclemann View Post
              I dont care one bit if you supported bush or not BUT WHEN THE GUY HAD BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 30 DAYS YOU WERE DRUMMING UP THE HATE SPEECHES AGAINST HIM. At least I waited for bush to obtain some type of record before I started putting out the negative things he was up to but you started almost immediately with anti-obama campaign,


              FYI Musclemann you joined this site in 2004. Bush became president in 2001. So as far as the site is concerned of course you waited to bash Bush. You weren't here to do otherwise.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Spark View Post


                classic....isnt his brother homeless in Kenya????
                jordanrules..................

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Spark View Post
                  I think the Kool-Aid is getting to you ... what comments have I made to you, grandmama and buddylove?? I have no idea what you are talking about ...

                  Oh and btw, how about what I just posted in this thread?? How come you did not comment on that??

                  I can give 2 shits about his skin color ... you do not even know me well enough to make that comment ... go look in the mirror and tell me who is the prejudice one around here ... and you made that perfectly clear ...

                  I will be waiting for your response regarding the "disturbing comments" I have made ... pls give me the links ...
                  Wow did I hit a sore spot spark? Like I said I know you could give a rats ass about my opinion but your response and any search here for the PAST13 MONTHS since this guy has been in office would qualify your thoughts and opinions about the this guys race. Im being as objective as I can and I must admit I was surprised as hell when you started tossing around the hate propaganda,like I said I would expect this type of attitude from certain people but i was surprised it started coming from you.

                  Where they heck were you the last 9 years when the previous dude ran the country in the ground? DAMN JUST THINK IF OBAMA HAD THAT FOR A RECORD! but with certain people the double standard will remain.

                  And as far as the comments I will email you the apology I got from you regarding skin color brother which I took no offense to AT THE TIME because I didnt think you meant anything by the comments and it was between me and you but your nonstop rhetoric has changed my opinion about your attitudes regarding that situation.

                  You can believe what you want and hate what you want spark, thats the beautiful thing about this country--- you owe me no excuses.

                  Im done with this and whoever wants to take shots at me and defend spark thats your prerogative, go right ahead. I havent lied or made up anything Ive said here, I have no reason and nothing to gain.

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                  • #10
                    COMPARING HIM TO HITLER, SOMEONE WHO KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?

                    JEEZ UNREAL

                    Their some classy people here at bettorschat but this is classless. Take care dude, you dont need me,and I dont need you.
                    Last edited by musclemann; 01-21-2010, 08:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Oh, you talking about this e-mail I sent you MM ... You see, this is the kind of guy I am ... I do not like to offend anyone ... great on your part though trying to twist it around ... sorta did not work though did it???






                      We have had a few posts to each other back and forth .. none of them bothered me at all except the one I made to you ...

                      I need to clear things up because it has been bothering me some ... When I made the comment "your people" I got an e-mail from a good friend telling me that what I said was so wrong ... I wrote back and told him that I did not know what he was talking about .. we are discussing left vs right ... he told me at that time that he thought I meant black vs white ...

                      I felt like crap .. and then you posted what you did in response and I said DAMN, MM took it that way also ...

                      I just wanted to clear the air here ... I meant in no way BLACKS when I said "YOUR PEOPLE" ... I am not that way ...

                      Just hope you believe me ..

                      Have a great day lefty ... hahahahaha


                      Joe

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                        COMPARING HIM TO HITLER, SOMEONE WHO KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?

                        JEEZ UNREAL

                        Their some classy people here at bettorschat but this is classless. Take care dude, you dont need me,and I dont need you.
                        See ya ... You will not be missed .. trust me

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                          Wow did I hit a sore spot spark? Like I said I know you could give a rats ass about my opinion but your response and any search here for the PAST13 MONTHS since this guy has been in office would qualify your thoughts and opinions about the this guys race. Im being as objective as I can and I must admit I was surprised as hell when you started tossing around the hate propaganda,like I said I would expect this type of attitude from certain people but i was surprised it started coming from you.

                          Where they heck were you the last 9 years when the previous dude ran the country in the ground? DAMN JUST THINK IF OBAMA HAD THAT FOR A RECORD! but with certain people the double standard will remain.

                          And as far as the comments I will email you the apology I got from you regarding skin color brother which I took no offense to AT THE TIME because I didnt think you meant anything by the comments and it was between me and you but your nonstop rhetoric has changed my opinion about your attitudes regarding that situation.

                          You can believe what you want and hate what you want spark, thats the beautiful thing about this country--- you owe me no excuses.

                          Im done with this and whoever wants to take shots at me and defend spark thats your prerogative, go right ahead. I havent lied or made up anything Ive said here, I have no reason and nothing to gain.
                          You have some serious issues MM.I don't know if something happend in your life that you can't let go of but you live in the past more than anyone I have ever seen.Move forward man.You can't change the past but you can change tomorrow.

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                          • #14
                            damn i guess you guys missed my post...lol
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Spark View Post
                              See ya ... You will not be missed .. trust me
                              Originally posted by musclemann View Post
                              COMPARING HIM TO HITLER, SOMEONE WHO KILLED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?

                              JEEZ UNREAL

                              Their some classy people here at bettorschat but this is classless. Take care dude, you dont need me,and I dont need you.
                              Seriously, don't let the door hit you in the ass.

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