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  • Serious question to Obama supporters

    I'll admit this isn't an easy question to answer, but roughly at what timeframe in his administration will things start becoming his fault? Look, I know things take time, but with most of you still blaming Bush, I'd like to know when that excuse is no longer valid........after 1 year? 18 months? two years? Surely you can't keep blaming Bush Obama's entire four years?

    Unemployment numbers out today at 10.2%, the highest in 26 years. I'm not saying it is 100% Obama's fault, that's foolish. However, do you think he has 0% of the blame?

    I'm not being sarcastic with this question, I'm just really trying to understand a liberal's thought process.

    With terrible policies I don't think we are recovering any time soon. So, if things do continue to suck, at what point does it stop being Bush's fault in your mind?
    Last edited by harold_bush; 11-06-2009, 12:18 PM.

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    9/11 happened in month #9 for Bush and they are all pointing the finger that its his fault, so I think whatever Maobama has done since he has been in, its all his fault too.

    Being realistic, of course not in either's case, but wearing foggy glasses bring foggy results.

    I think the more important questions are:

    How would you rate Congress and their policies since 2006 ??

    Shouldn't THEY be held accountable for the Economic mess and other downfalls in this country with their Bullshit Bills or lack thereof ??
    He who wears diaper knows his shit - Confucius

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    • #3
      Originally posted by insidethe8thpol View Post
      9/11 happened in month #9 for Bush and they are all pointing the finger that its his fault, so I think whatever Maobama has done since he has been in, its all his fault too.

      Being realistic, of course not in either's case, but wearing foggy glasses bring foggy results.

      I think the more important questions are:

      How would you rate Congress and their policies since 2006 ??

      Shouldn't THEY be held accountable for the Economic mess and other downfalls in this country with their Bullshit Bills or lack thereof ??
      Amen on that.

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      • #4
        9/11 was not Bush's fault. Just blaming either one of them doesn't do shit. I'm not looking for a time to start bashing Obama, just like I wasn't looking a time frame to bash Bush. I just looked at the whole 8 years Bush was in office, and it was crap. So with that said, I'm gonna wait till Obama's 4 years are over, if it looks like he's done some good things, I'll vote for him again, if it looks like he's making a lot of mistakes, I'll look elsewhere. You guys that just bash him from day one, have no credibility with me. Anybody that tries to play the muslim card has zero credibility with me. You voted for Sarah Palin, enough said.

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        • #5
          For record, as of right now, I'm skeptical on the direction Obama is heading. I'm trying to be positive, and obviously I want the country to flourish, just like everyone should. I think Obama got stuck in a bad situation and if he turns this around, he should be praised by everyone, but we know that won't happen. The Sarah Palin followers, that are just blind sheep, are gonna bash him no matter what happens.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
            For record, as of right now, I'm skeptical on the direction Obama is heading. I'm trying to be positive, and obviously I want the country to flourish, just like everyone should. I think Obama got stuck in a bad situation and if he turns this around, he should be praised by everyone, but we know that won't happen. The Sarah Palin followers, that are just blind sheep, are gonna bash him no matter what happens.
            I am not a fan of Obama, but I will hold my judgement on him for another 3 years. I dont blame everything on him, I realize that George left some shit that needs repair, we will see if Obama's change is what is best for this country.

            Pelosi on the other hand I think is a fucking whack job!!
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            • #7
              Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
              For record, as of right now, I'm skeptical on the direction Obama is heading. I'm trying to be positive, and obviously I want the country to flourish, just like everyone should. I think Obama got stuck in a bad situation and if he turns this around, he should be praised by everyone, but we know that won't happen. The Sarah Palin followers, that are just blind sheep, are gonna bash him no matter what happens.



              BW,

              Not exactly a Sarah Palin follower (but I would certainly do her) but what the media did to trash her is pathetic. No wonder good people steer away from a life in politics and we end up with the phonies we have.

              Tina Fey doing Sarah Palin is hot
              NBA is a joke

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              • #8
                Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
                BW,

                Not exactly a Sarah Palin follower (but I would certainly do her) but what the media did to trash her is pathetic. No wonder good people steer away from a life in politics and we end up with the phonies we have.

                Tina Fey doing Sarah Palin is hot
                I would do a snake if someone will hold its head for me

                But i would most definitely railed that broad. Not sure she was fit to be vice, but she would have been easy on the eyes
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jcindaville View Post
                  I am not a fan of Obama, but I will hold my judgement on him for another 3 years. I dont blame everything on him, I realize that George left some shit that needs repair, we will see if Obama's change is what is best for this country.

                  Pelosi on the other hand I think is a fucking whack job!!
                  Me too and I agree about Pelosi

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by flarendep1 View Post
                    BW,

                    Not exactly a Sarah Palin follower (but I would certainly do her) but what the media did to trash her is pathetic. No wonder good people steer away from a life in politics and we end up with the phonies we have.

                    Tina Fey doing Sarah Palin is hot
                    Agreed, but at the same time, she was exposed.

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                    • #11
                      I know someone who bought a house in the late 80s for about 90K and was told to live in it and pay it off and use that house for equity if money was ever needed. Well this person decided to stay in this house and did some renovations over the years for about 60K and in the middle of this decade had the house valued at nearly 250K. With a refi job in the mid 90s the home was scheduled to be paid off sometime in the early 2010s....what a great investment and this person had a nest egg from the house to look forward to during retirement.

                      This same person was also told to start setting aside 1K every month from their salary also for retirement because obviously nobody can depend on SSI as their sole source of retirement income.....well over the years these funds starting adding up and between this money set aside and the home this person should be well taken care of during retirement when that day finally came.

                      Lets keep in mind this person is well educated with a Masters Degree in Education and is very close to attaining their PHd and started from nothing and obviously these types of turnarounds are only possible in a place like America.

                      Well guess what happened.....the housing market turned out to be a fraud and this so called 250K home was only really worth somewhere south of 150K and these so called investments that were supposed to set up for a nice retirement also came crashing down and burned to probably less than what initially invested. This person now probably has to put off retirement for another 5-10 years and it wont nearly be as nice as once thought.

                      Now surely this isnt a very sad story but my friends most of America fell victim here in this same situation a few years ago. People who invested in GL bonds also (life savings maybe) are today broke as the largest company in the world came crashing down.

                      All you hear on the news when home values and stocks crash is what a great buying opportunity has become of it. Well who do you think has this great buying opportunity? The average American or some filthy rich American or foreign investor who can buy everything up for pennies on the dollar and actually make some real money?

                      Reality is poor people had nothing to begin with so when markets crash they lose nothing because they had nothing but middle class people go to sleep wealthy and wake up broke and need to start over again while the rich get richer.

                      This my friends isnt the way it is today......this is the way it has been for the last 50 years in America regardless of who is in office (Dem or Repub) because govt. doesnt work for the people anymore.......it works for the rich.

                      The power in office and on Capit"A"l Hill doesnt give a fuck about most Americans, they just act like they do while in the meantime they devise ways of lining corporate americas pockets.

                      The feed the masses ideas of Socialism, Communism & violations of 1st Amendment Rights. Our govenment needs an overhaul because of the folks who wrote our Constitution over 200 years ago seen America today they would be ashamed to see the govt as it is today. Americans need to take power back and have the American Govt work for all Americans istead of the elite few and corporations. Middle America is getting eroded and the sheep (all of us) just want to point the finger at the other and lay blame which helps nobody. Its time America gets taken back by the people folks because the way the system works now it doesnt matter who is in power (Dem or Repub) they are on the same team furthering their agendas while we are left fighting and arguing.

                      Something has to change and it has to change soon because the path we are headed isn't the right one. Working together is the answer....not against each other passing blame.

                      PEACE

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                      • #12
                        I agree 100 % Ronnie

                        Lets shoot every last politician square in the forehead and start over from scratch.

                        Tell the next person running he/she is getting the same if they dont vote for what is best for who elected them!!
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
                          9/11 was not Bush's fault. Just blaming either one of them doesn't do shit. I'm not looking for a time to start bashing Obama, just like I wasn't looking a time frame to bash Bush. I just looked at the whole 8 years Bush was in office, and it was crap. So with that said, I'm gonna wait till Obama's 4 years are over, if it looks like he's done some good things, I'll vote for him again, if it looks like he's making a lot of mistakes, I'll look elsewhere. You guys that just bash him from day one, have no credibility with me. Anybody that tries to play the muslim card has zero credibility with me. You voted for Sarah Palin, enough said.
                          Let's not generalize b/c I've never played the Muslim card. I also didn't bash him from day 1. As unlikely as I thought it was, I was pulling for him to surprise b/c I want this economy back. It wasn't until all the false promises and what I view as terrible policies that I started bashing.

                          I've also never said anything about Palin, and frankly not a huge fan of hers, and even less of a fan of McCain.....as a politician, he's obviosuly a great man. My vote for McCain/Palin was simply a vote against Obama, not b/c I was a fan of either.........one of those lesser of two evils votes.
                          Last edited by harold_bush; 11-06-2009, 02:36 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BigWeiner View Post
                            Me too and I agree about Pelosi

                            I think just about everyone agrees about Pelosi, one thing probaly 90% of have in common.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jcindaville View Post
                              I would do a snake if someone will hold its head for me

                              But i would most definitely railed that broad. Not sure she was fit to be vice, but she would have been easy on the eyes
                              at least consistent

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