What in Nancy Pelosi smoking?

[BearDown]

Democrats are a VERY divided party right now with the struggle between the radical leftist leaders (Reid, Pelois, Obama) and the more moderate side of the party.

HB if you think Pelois, Reid, and Obama are the "radical left" than I say you () watch too much FOX or listen to too much AM talk radio, because the people you mentioned are the moderate side of the party. You are just being led that they are the "far left". If they were far left they would be putting a single payer (not for profit) healthcare plan up for vote (instead of taking it out) like true far left / progressives want.

[insidethe8thpol]

Clinton was in office for approximately 40 days when WTC I occured. To say that the entire operation was planned and executed in those 40 days would be giving the Yousef and his band of terrorists way too much credit. Most of the planning took place when Bush Sr. was in office

The same can be said about WTC II on 9/11. KSM started planning 9/11 in 1998, long before Bush was in office. To say Bush is wholly responsible would be just as naive as blaming Clinton for WTC I in 1993.

You are so right Rob

[poskid]

HB if you think Pelois, Reid, and Obama are the "radical left" than I say you () watch too much FOX or listen to too much AM talk radio, because the people you mentioned are the moderate side of the party. You are just being led that they are the "far left". If they were far left they would be putting a single payer (not for profit) healthcare plan up for vote (instead of taking it out) like true far left / progressives want.

Just wanting any sort of Federal program is far left and frankly un-American. Why does washington need to stick their big fat nose into my life some more? Because they want the power to regulate everything. the nursemaid mentality of the politicians that is being nurtured by the innane idiocy of the few degenerates in this country who think that they should be given everything and not have to work for it is downright starting to piss me and many other people off. The worst part is that they have just as many people voting for them simply because they are friends of their special interest. The whole system makes me sick. BTW this goes for lemmings in both parties I'm a friend of neither.

PK

[flarendep1]

Just wanting any sort of Federal program is far left and frankly un-American. Why does washington need to stick their big fat nose into my life some more? Because they want the power to regulate everything. the nursemaid mentality of the politicians that is being nurtured by the innane idiocy of the few degenerates in this country who think that they should be given everything and not have to work for it is downright starting to piss me and many other people off. The worst part is that they have just as many people voting for them simply because they are friends of their special interest. The whole system makes me sick. BTW this goes for lemmings in both parties I'm a friend of neither.

PK

"Government does not solve problems, they subsidize them"

Ronald Reagan

[buddyluv1968]

And you were complaining about assanine statements? Let me remind you that Bush took office on January 20, 2001, less than eight months prior to the attack. It was your boy, Billy, that let Bin Laden get away.

Let me state this for the record again, I AM NOT A GEORGE BUSH apologist. I think he did an excellent job of keeping this country safe in the aftermath of the attacks, but outside of that I didn't like too much of what he did. Government got way to big under Bush and the bailouts started under him.

Keeping the country safe After the 1993 attacks it took 8 years before they attacked the trade center again. Personally I really do not give a damn about the republicans or Democrats but that statement of keeping us safe is really not true. Osama is still free, Bush did what Bin Laden wanted by making it in a religious war against Islam. The United States are in the midst of two wars. The military is depleted. We have soldiers doing SEVERAL TOURS OF DUTY. I really go on with this for a while. But let me sum this up for you. When you have a depleted and tired military and you pick a fight with these people you are less safe. And to prove that I am not political Reagan was smart enough to leave Beirut after the Marine Barracks, and George HW knew not to invade Iraq. It is a whole lot easier to bomb these countrys than to invade them.

[BearDown]

"Government does not solve problems

It doesn't, but don't we always look to goverment to solve our problems? Why isn't the President creating jobs? Is it the Presidents job to create jobs? Yes or No?

[jordanrules23]

NoBAMA said he would

[flarendep1]

It doesn't, but don't we always look to goverment to solve our problems? Why isn't the President creating jobs? Is it the Presidents job to create jobs? Yes or No?

No, we live in a capitalist society, the private sector will take take of it with minimal government regulation. More government will eventually kill small businesses.........the largest provider of jobs.

[husker]

No, we live in a capitalist society, the private sector will take take of it with minimal government regulation. More government will eventually kill small businesses.........the largest provider of jobs.

bingo!

[10DimeBry]

No, we live in a capitalist society, the private sector will take take of it with minimal government regulation. More government will eventually kill small businesses.........the largest provider of jobs.

the sad part is. the only sector that had job growth over the last 6months was Government jobs. I mean other jobs were created but not at the rate state/government jobs were created. It is really sad that our nation day in and day out grows ever more dependent on the Federal government. Whether its health care or auto industry or HUD or SSI or welfare its just far too much.

[grandmama]

One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

what site did you copy and paste this from? I'd like to see it.

[grandmama]

She was more qualified as a VP than Obama is as a president.

Frank, your not a bad guy, but Sara Palin is one of the worst political VP candidates I've seen in my life. If McCain would have gone with anyone else he would have had a shot. She really only catered to the far right; which he would have got anyway. All she did, was make him lose his credibility, and I know he regrets picking her as his VP. I know he was pressured into it.

[flarendep1]

what site did you copy and paste this from? I'd like to see it.

Grandmama,

Might be from this one...read it and weep

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes


Those quotes are all true.

[BearDown]

Frank, your not a bad guy, but Sara Palin is one of the worst political VP candidates I've seen in my life. If McCain would have gone with anyone else he would have had a shot. She really only catered to the far right; which he would have got anyway. All she did, was make him lose his credibility, and I know he regrets picking her as his VP. I know he was pressured into it.

I agree and disagree here. As I said in another post the Republican is split on party philosophy and this is a great example of that. McCain didn't want Palin as you said. It was well rumored that he wanted Lieberman, but when the far right got a wiff of that they started to bail. The far right pretty much forced their will on McCain to choose Palin, but I really doubt that the far right would have backed McCain if he didn't choose a candidate that they aproved of. In that aspect, the Republican party is on the right track imo. I don't think you are going to see a wishie washie candidate from the GOP in 12, it's going to be closer to a hardliner imo.

[husker]

i find it funny that when dem's are divided about some issues, they are independent thinkers. when rep's are divided about some issues, the party is in disarray. got to love those spin masters.