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  • #16
    Originally posted by kim61299
    Hmmm....or we could have just let Hussein stay in power - after killing 5% of his own country's population. (not to mention the thousands upon thousands from countries surrounding Iraq) and become the next Stalin. Who was his hero! I would have prayed about the decision also - since starting a war for the greater good is probably not an easy decision to make. Again enjoy the read.

    Since then, Mr. Hussein's has been a tale of terror that scholars have compared to that of Stalin, whom the Iraqi leader is said to revere, even if his own brutalities have played out on a small scale. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people, historians have concluded. Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein's, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.

    Where the comparison seems closest is in the regime's mercilessly sadistic character. Iraq has its gulag of prisons, dungeons and torture chambers — some of them acknowledged, like Abu Ghraib, and as many more disguised as hotels, sports centers and other innocent-sounding places. It has its overlapping secret-police agencies, and its culture of betrayal, with family members denouncing each other, and offices and factories becoming hives of perfidy.

    "Enemies of the state" are eliminated, and their spouses, adult children and even cousins are often tortured and killed along with them.

    Mr. Hussein even uses Stalinist maxims, including what an Iraqi defector identified as one of the dictator's favorites: "If there is a person, then there is a problem. If there is no person, then there is no problem."

    There are rituals to make the end as terrible as possible, not only for the victims but for those who survive. After seizing power in July 1979, Mr. Hussein handed weapons to surviving members of the ruling elite, then joined them in personally executing 22 comrades who had dared to oppose his ascent.

    Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have "disappeared" into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.


    BRILLIANT BANKRUPT OUR COUNTRY SEND OUR ECONOMY IN THE SHITTER ABD DRIVE GAS PRICES UP TO 5.00 A GALLON WHERE IS ALL THAT IRAQI OIL??????ILL TELL YOU HELPING HIM OLD MAN BUSH AND CHENEY.


    HMMM TRAGEGIES I WONT MENTION THE SUDAN. GEORGE THE SAINT


    5 TRILLION TO SUPPORT HIS OWN PERSONAL AGENDA.........................THANKS BUD

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    • #17
      Kim,

      Great points but those who have so much hatred for Bush cannot see the facts. Many Bush haters believe he caused 9/11, Katrina, Global warming, etc.
      NBA is a joke

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KazDog
        I couldn't give a shit if he's atheist, Christian, Baptist or anything else frankly. His religion has little to do with how he runs the country. This donkey has proven to be one of the worse all time. That's just a fact.

        This one is a religious zealot at times who is responsible for the lives of many soldiers and civilians in Iraq under the label of defeating the Axis of Evil. He's evil. And unfortunately he will come out of this mess unscathed.

        The last president we had ran the country as one of the best presidents we've ever had, and yet because he got a blowjob while in office, he faced impeachment.

        I'll take the Rhode Scholar who got the blowjob over this idiot any day.

        KAZ




        Kaz,

        You say Bush is "evil". Please move to Iran or Venazuala to be with those who agree with you.

        As much as Clinton was a fuckup, I would never call him "evil". Have some respect for the country and the presidency.
        NBA is a joke

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kim61299
          Hmmm....or we could have just let Hussein stay in power - after killing 5% of his own country's population. (not to mention the thousands upon thousands from countries surrounding Iraq) and become the next Stalin. Who was his hero! I would have prayed about the decision also - since starting a war for the greater good is probably not an easy decision to make. Again enjoy the read.

          Since then, Mr. Hussein's has been a tale of terror that scholars have compared to that of Stalin, whom the Iraqi leader is said to revere, even if his own brutalities have played out on a small scale. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people, historians have concluded. Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein's, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.

          Where the comparison seems closest is in the regime's mercilessly sadistic character. Iraq has its gulag of prisons, dungeons and torture chambers — some of them acknowledged, like Abu Ghraib, and as many more disguised as hotels, sports centers and other innocent-sounding places. It has its overlapping secret-police agencies, and its culture of betrayal, with family members denouncing each other, and offices and factories becoming hives of perfidy.

          "Enemies of the state" are eliminated, and their spouses, adult children and even cousins are often tortured and killed along with them.

          Mr. Hussein even uses Stalinist maxims, including what an Iraqi defector identified as one of the dictator's favorites: "If there is a person, then there is a problem. If there is no person, then there is no problem."

          There are rituals to make the end as terrible as possible, not only for the victims but for those who survive. After seizing power in July 1979, Mr. Hussein handed weapons to surviving members of the ruling elite, then joined them in personally executing 22 comrades who had dared to oppose his ascent.

          Casualties from Iraq's gulag are harder to estimate. Accounts collected by Western human rights groups from Iraqi émigrés and defectors have suggested that the number of those who have "disappeared" into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000. As long as Mr. Hussein remains in power, figures like these will be uncheckable, but the huge toll is palpable nonetheless.
          Hmmm...Considering we helped to put him on top of that country and helped train his military in an effort to defeat Iran, which the glorious President Regan had a hand in including Afghanistan and Bin Laden to help defeat the Russians......So what does that makes us? Stalin sympathisers?

          KAZ
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          • #20
            Originally posted by flarendep1
            Kaz,

            You say Bush is "evil". Please move to Iran or Venazuala to be with those who agree with you.

            As much as Clinton was a fuckup, I would never call him "evil". Have some respect for the country and the presidency.
            Last time I checked this is a free country. I think he's an evil piece of shit. How do you like that? And I'm not going anywhere.
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            • #21
              Yes and you are so lucky to live in a free country, no thanks to guys like you who would rather turn the US into a socialist country.
              NBA is a joke

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              • #22
                Kaz

                A Baptist is a Christian. And a Christian can be a Baptist.

                Kind of like "Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle."

                To your point saying the President is evil? That is funny thanks for the laugh. Apparently you aren't much of a history scholar. If you would say that Bush is evil - you know nothing about leaders throughout the world's history. And if you check any poll about the best presidents in the US history Clinton ranks below 20th. In a very complex study of professors from Yale, Northwestern, Virginia, Alabama, and Columbia the presidents were rated on 3 criteria - Historical significance, Law, and Policy. Clinton ranked 20th in History, 27th in Law, and 28th in Policy. That is VERY consistent of any poll/study of scholars on our presidents. But Kaz you must be a fan of mediocrity and below - as that is clearly where Clinton was/is in the history of US presidents.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by KazDog
                  Last time I checked this is a free country. I think he's an evil piece of shit. How do you like that? And I'm not going anywhere.

                  HE IS THE ONE WHO SHOULD CHECK OUT IRAQ KAZ, SINCE HE DOESNT MIND SENDING TRILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS THERE.

                  DONT PAY THIS GUY ANY ATTENTION HE AINT WORTH IT.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jcheckers
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                    NICE PHOTO SHOOT.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kim61299
                      Kaz

                      A Baptist is a Christian. And a Christian can be a Baptist.

                      Kind of like "Finkle is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkle."

                      To your point saying the President is evil? That is funny thanks for the laugh. Apparently you aren't much of a history scholar. If you would say that Bush is evil - you know nothing about leaders throughout the world's history. And if you check any poll about the best presidents in the US history Clinton ranks below 20th. In a very complex study of professors from Yale, Northwestern, Virginia, Alabama, and Columbia the presidents were rated on 3 criteria - Historical significance, Law, and Policy. Clinton ranked 20th in History, 27th in Law, and 28th in Policy. That is VERY consistent of any poll/study of scholars on our presidents. But Kaz you must be a fan of mediocrity and below - as that is clearly where Clinton was/is in the history of US presidents.
                      I know that a Baptist is a Christian....

                      You seriously want to debate who the more intellectual president was between Bush and Clinton? That has to be one of the funniest things written on here. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar and Bush was a frat house idiot that was gifted a degree.

                      They just did a poll of 100 scholars as who the worse presidents all time are. Bush was at the top of the list.

                      And this statement by you makes absolutely no sense...."Apparently you aren't much of a history scholar. If you would say that Bush is evil - you know nothing about leaders throughout the world's history. "

                      What's your point??? You mean because he's a world leader, that gives him the right to be evil or he is less evil than others???
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by flarendep1
                        Yes and you are so lucky to live in a free country, no thanks to guys like you who would rather turn the US into a socialist country.
                        Predictable reply from you Flare.....


                        You see, it is YOU who should go live in another country or maybe an island, where everyone is the same color as you and of the same opinion as you. So you can always have a president that is the same color as you and where you aren't free to voice an opposing opinion. Where gays and lesbians aren't allowed. And where people only can believe in one religion. Where you always get a tax refund, or better yet, no taxes. Where it's OK to be a biggot. That would be the perfect place for you. This is a free country full of people with different skin color and different opinions. Not a place for a guy like you.

                        Unfortunately, Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945. That would have been a perfect place for you. Where only one color and one opinion matters....
                        Last edited by KazDog; 07-22-2008, 12:06 AM.
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                        • #27
                          I am not debating the intellect of Bush vs Clinton. I never said Clinton was dumb. I did say that if you look at any scholarly ranking of US presidents - Clinton ranks somewhere between 20th and 28th. That is a far cry from your statement that he was "one of the best Presidents ever." We will see where Bush will rank after his term is over,as almost all history/law/political scholars agree that a president should be out of office for a full term before an accurate picture can be taken of what they did/did not accomplish. (although I can find numerous polls that don't have Bush anywhere close to last of the US presidents)

                          As far as the history statement goes - I can spell it out for those of you who are a little slow. If you look at a history book and compare President Bush to any other leader - evil would not be a word that comes to mind.
                          Last edited by kim61299; 07-22-2008, 12:09 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by KazDog
                            Predictable reply from you Flare.....


                            You see, it is YOU who should go live in another country or maybe an island, where everyone is the same color as you and of the same opinion as you. So you can always have a president that is the same color as you and where you aren't free to voice an opposing opinion. That would be the perfect place for you. This is a free country full of people with different skin color and different opinions. Not a place for a guy like you.

                            Unfortunately, Nazi Germany was defeated in 1945. That would have been a place for a guy like you. Where only one color and one opinion matters....


                            Actually KAz,

                            Your response is predictable, try and label me a racist or a Nazi when you are defeated by the facts of a little debate. You see, I love this country and all the different races.

                            What I dont love is Dems policies who want to keep people down thru welfare, want to destroy free market capitalism and weaken our military.
                            NBA is a joke

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by kim61299
                              I am not debating the intellect of Bush vs Clinton. I never said Clinton was dumb. I did say that if you look at any scholarly ranking of US presidents - Clinton ranks somewhere between 20th and 28th. That is a far cry from your statement that he was "one of the best Presidents ever." We will see where Bush will rank after his term is over,as almost all history/law/political scholars agree that a president should be out of office for a full term before an accurate picture can be taken of what they did/did not accomplish. (although I can find numerous polls that don't have Bush anywhere close to last of the US presidents)

                              As far as the history statement goes - I can spell it out for those of you who are a little slow. If you look at a history book and compare President Bush to any other leader - evil would not be a word that comes to mind.
                              First of all.....No one is going to 'RANK' a president who faced impeachment hearings, at the top of the list. Like I said, we tried to impeach Clinton for getting a blowjob and yet Bush is responsible for the deaths of 5000 soldiers and thousands of innocent lives for a war HE started.

                              2nd.....EVIL is my opinion. It's NOT something I need to find in any history book. Esp since the history of this evil POS isn't even over yet....Get it?
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by flarendep1
                                Actually KAz,

                                Your response is predictable, try and label me a racist or a Nazi when you are defeated by the facts of a little debate. You see, I love this country and all the different races.

                                What I dont love is Dems policies who want to keep people down thru welfare, want to destroy free market capitalism and weaken our military.
                                "Keep people down through welfare."

                                Yeah, that's what we do. We give the majority of people who can't afford a decent life, welfare, to keep them from starving or becoming sick and becoming a greater burden on the taxpayer. And though there are a few who abuse it and abuse the system, just like anyone would do, there are many who do not.

                                But instead, you're OK with sending trillions of your taxpayer dollars to liberate Muslims.

                                That's how we keep people down through welfare? Your facts are garbage.

                                Great points there Flare! Like I said, Nazi Germany would have suited a guy like you.
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