Bush's War

[dakingisdead]

He isn't in my mind, but again nice try on the spin Tony. You on the other hand refer to him as a black man thus the question remains unanswered. However, since you didn't answer that it tells me that was a yes on your part.

Now how do you feel about Regan? Personally he was worthless and had little to do with the cold war ending.

I could care less what color he is, or what color he claims to be. He is a big budget, big government, liberal, extreme left, lying, poor judgment, no experience, all words, and no action and experience candidate. I know your response will be to attack the president, which is what most people who can't deal in facts resort to. newsflash for everyone. bush isn't running again. i might be wrong, but please bump my posts referring to him as "the black man". Thanks

[BettorsChat]

Ronald Reagan was a great man, a former Democrat who saw the light.

Tony oops you're not Tony.

Reagan was a worthless President.

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I could care less what color he is, or what color he claims to be. He is a big budget, big government, liberal, extreme left, lying, poor judgment, no experience, all words, and no action and experience candidate. I know your response will be to attack the president, which is what most people who can't deal in facts resort to. newsflash for everyone. bush isn't running again. i might be wrong, but please bump my posts referring to him as "the black man". Thanks

Again not answering the questions......

I guess Republicans aren't big government

And you're right he has as much experience if not more than Bush when he ran for President.

Bump your own posts as I'm not looking for it Tony. I have enough of an upset stomach now from reading your posts to not want to wade through more of them.

[dakingisdead]

Again not answering the questions......

I guess Republicans aren't big government

And you're right he has as much experience if not more than Bush when he ran for President.

Bump your own posts as I'm not looking for it Tony. I have enough of an upset stomach now from reading your posts to not want to wade through more of them.

I think I answered your race question, as I don't care what race he is or claims he is.
This administration has been one of the biggest spenders ever, even not including the war.
So if bush sucks, and had no experience, then i assume you are smart enough to make the conclusion that inexperience is not good?
hope your tummy gets better. then you can look for my "black man" posts.

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I think I answered your race question, as I don't care what race he is or claims he is.
This administration has been one of the biggest spenders ever, even not including the war.
So if bush sucks, and had no experience, then i assume you are smart enough to make the conclusion that inexperience is not good?
hope your tummy gets better. then you can look for my "black man" posts.

Tony,

Obama has as much experience and probably more than Bush. Now your spin that McCain has more experience thus would be better I'm not buying. This Country is always fucked when a Republican gets in there. Proof is with Reagan, Bush and the Governor.

You can find the thread about your racist remarks as I know where you stand and don't need to bump it for my sake.

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Nice Avatar Tony

[buddyluv1968]

Verify what? That the govt is spreading, after creating, aids?
Oprah was a member, but quit. What do 8500 members need to verify? You see the clips and look at most people standing and cheering. And this isn't about the president, as much as you want to try and deflect the topic.
If obama is running on judgment, why shouldn't his affliation with this church, be brought into question?? I don't think that obama agrees with any of it, even though that can't be "verified", but i can question his decision to remain a member of this church, as well as a friend of this racist and anti-american pastor. You want to nail mccain and his affliations and endorsements, so you have to do the same to obama. But mccain didn't sit in a pew for 20 years and listen to the hate speech obama did, nor did mccain annoint a racist as his spiritual advisor. Has mccain thrown any relatives nder a bus, or referred to anyone as a "typical black person"?

This might sound crazy, but do you have proof that the government did not create Aids????? Once upon a time I probably would of said hell no the government would not do such a thing. But have you heard of the Tuskegee Experiment were the govt infected Black men with Syphils? Just google it. Pastor Wright is a older black man that was in the Marines but he could not be served at different place. My father spent 22 yrs in the army fought in both Korea and Vietnam defending your and my freedom and he was denied a VA loan from the bank(and yes he has excellent credit) in the late 60's. Could not stay in certain hotels when he was in route to go to different bases. Some of you might say that never happend and some of you might say racism does not exist. But when Pastor Wright sung the National Anthem in sarcastic way and had fake tears. He was pointing out the hypocrisy of this country. He served in the military for this country, he put his life on the line for this country. So why cant he be criticle? Pastor Wright has done a lot of positive things in Chicago. He also preached many sermons of telling people not to blame the white man blame yourself. But the media or the maching is not going to release those tapes...

[dakingisdead]

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Nice Avatar Tony

wow..neat trick..i guess when you can't win with facts you do the childish and call people names...keep spinning..maybe that's why your tummy hurts.

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This might sound crazy, but do you have proof that the government did not create Aids????? Once upon a time I probably would of said hell no the government would not do such a thing. But have you heard of the Tuskegee Experiment were the govt infected Black men with Syphils? Just google it. Pastor Wright is a older black man that was in the Marines but he could not be served at different place. My father spent 22 yrs in the army fought in both Korea and Vietnam defending your and my freedom and he was denied a VA loan from the bank(and yes he has excellent credit) in the late 60's. Could not stay in certain hotels when he was in route to go to different bases. Some of you might say that never happend and some of you might say racism does not exist. But when Pastor Wright sung the National Anthem in sarcastic way and had fake tears. He was pointing out the hypocrisy of this country. He served in the military for this country, he put his life on the line for this country. So why cant he be criticle? Pastor Wright has done a lot of positive things in Chicago. He also preached many sermons of telling people not to blame the white man blame yourself. But the media or the maching is not going to release those tapes...

IMO I don't think the Government came up with aids. Now I could be wrong as theres no telling what all they have did that we as a Country don't know about. I believe that they know of aliens and alien aircraft etc. Yet to this day they deny it.

And the reason no one sees anything else about Wright is, because the media are a bunch of pricks that print things that will sell. They want controversy as it sells.

And as for racism it does still exist and probably always will. However, it doesn't just exist for blacks and IMO it has gotten a lot better over the past 50 years.

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wow..neat trick..i guess when you can't win with facts you do the childish and call people names...keep spinning..maybe that's why your tummy hurts.

WTF are you talking about?

I may just spin you out on your arse

[dakingisdead]

This might sound crazy, but do you have proof that the government did not create Aids????? Once upon a time I probably would of said hell no the government would not do such a thing. But have you heard of the Tuskegee Experiment were the govt infected Black men with Syphils? Just google it. Pastor Wright is a older black man that was in the Marines but he could not be served at different place. My father spent 22 yrs in the army fought in both Korea and Vietnam defending your and my freedom and he was denied a VA loan from the bank(and yes he has excellent credit) in the late 60's. Could not stay in certain hotels when he was in route to go to different bases. Some of you might say that never happend and some of you might say racism does not exist. But when Pastor Wright sung the National Anthem in sarcastic way and had fake tears. He was pointing out the hypocrisy of this country. He served in the military for this country, he put his life on the line for this country. So why cant he be criticle? Pastor Wright has done a lot of positive things in Chicago. He also preached many sermons of telling people not to blame the white man blame yourself. But the media or the maching is not going to release those tapes...

buddyluv..never have I written that pastor wright doesn't have the right to make his racist and hate filled statements..he, as everyone else, has the right to spew that hatred..but i do find your argument interesting with your "well how do you know the govt didn't".. that logic can be apllied to anything then..how do I know you're not a klansman? how do I know hillary clinton hasn't visited the moon? how do I know mccain doesn't breakdance in women's underwear with his wife? my point is according to that logic, everything that is claimed must be refuted with concrete evidence, and not common sense. does racism exist? of course it does, and i haven't seen anyone claim the contrary. but keep in mind that since the era of wright and apparently your dad, things have gotten 1000% better...not perfect, not equal, but better..and white epole have been discriminated just as much as anyone the last 30 years..so anyone under 30 has limited, if any, experiences similiar to your dad and wright. so to condone his hate speech and resurrect it like what happened (past tense) happens daily (present)is a bit off base. thank your father for his service to our country, and i truly mean that.

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buddyluv..never have I written that pastor wright doesn't have the right to make his racist and hate filled statements..he, as everyone else, has the right to spew that hatred..but i do find your argument interesting with your "well how do you know the govt didn't".. that logic can be apllied to anything then..how do I know you're not a klansman? how do I know hillary clinton hasn't visited the moon? how do I know mccain doesn't breakdance in women's underwear with his wife? my point is according to that logic, everything that is claimed must be refuted with concrete evidence, and not common sense. does racism exist? of course it does, and i haven't seen anyone claim the contrary. but keep in mind that since the era of wright and apparently your dad, things have gotten 1000% better...not perfect, not equal, but better..and white epole have been discriminated just as much as anyone the last 30 years..so anyone under 30 has limited, if any, experiences similiar to your dad and wright. so to condone his hate speech and resurrect it like what happened (past tense) happens daily (present)is a bit off base. thank your father for his service to our country, and i truly mean that.

Again putting words is ones mouth. I don't see were Buddy condones what the preacher says. He's stating that the guy has did a lot of good in his community and theres many things the media is leaving out.

refuted with concrete evidence like no weapons of mass destruction?

[dakingisdead]

Again putting words is ones mouth. I don't see were Buddy condones what the preacher says. He's stating that the guy has did a lot of good in his community and theres many things the media is leaving out.

refuted with concrete evidence like no weapons of mass destruction?

He said he understands it. I didn't say he (buddy) condones it. wright has every right to spew his hate, other then the irs and non profit status of his church with politicing at the pulpit. but that won't have legs. has the guy done good? i would hope so being a pastor for 30+ years..nothing to do with obama's judgment though.

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He said he understands it. I didn't say he (buddy) condones it. wright has every right to spew his hate, other then the irs and non profit status of his church with politicing at the pulpit. but that won't have legs. has the guy done good? i would hope so being a pastor for 30+ years..nothing to do with obama's judgment though.

You're so racist its not even funny!

[buddyluv1968]

buddyluv..never have I written that pastor wright doesn't have the right to make his racist and hate filled statements..he, as everyone else, has the right to spew that hatred..but i do find your argument interesting with your "well how do you know the govt didn't".. that logic can be apllied to anything then..how do I know you're not a klansman? how do I know hillary clinton hasn't visited the moon? how do I know mccain doesn't breakdance in women's underwear with his wife? my point is according to that logic, everything that is claimed must be refuted with concrete evidence, and not common sense. does racism exist? of course it does, and i haven't seen anyone claim the contrary. but keep in mind that since the era of wright and apparently your dad, things have gotten 1000% better...not perfect, not equal, but better..and white epole have been discriminated just as much as anyone the last 30 years..so anyone under 30 has limited, if any, experiences similiar to your dad and wright. so to condone his hate speech and resurrect it like what happened (past tense) happens daily (present)is a bit off base. thank your father for his service to our country, and i truly mean that.

I see your point too... but the govt did have something to do with syphilis in tuskegee. Im going to be honest with you. The war is on poverty, there will always be the haves and the have nots. The haves will never want to willingly relinquish power. Some have nots is going to blame the white man or the black man. In high school I knew that I was going to college and so did a lot of the well to do kids. But guess with whom the military recruiters concentrated on? The poor kids and that is why I am so sick of this war. Why the rich or connected gets to sit back with their flags and drive their SUVs. Do you know what they call a poor white boy and a poor black boy? Two poor motherfuckers that will be a high statistic in going to jail. Racism still exist just look at some of the things that Jordan writes. There is a big difference with Jordan and Vols Fan. I disagree with alot of things that Vols fan writes but some things he says is solid and he is a stand up guy with a ghetto pass Man I got to get back to work. My girl will be here in a second and I want to