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  • #31
    Originally posted by BackDoorCvr
    What law is that? The law that allows corporations to be as profitable as they can? There is no reason to lobby for an imaginary law. Corps are free to outsource if they'd like - not because Congress passed some law allowing them to. I agree that Corps do have alot of influence. I challenge you to point out where I said they don't. You're the guy who said that the dumb politicians allow them to move jobs overseas. Politicians have nothing to do with it. They can't make corporations keep jobs here. That is my point. The free market society in which we live allows business to operate freely.
    I suggest you learn about Tax Tariffs, because if you believe the Politicans have nothing to do with corporations moving jobs overseas then you don't know what you're talking about.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by vols fan
      I pay $52 a week for my family and it's time these people(without insurance)trade in there Escalades and Hummers and get something they can afford and pay it like the rest of us do.

      I'm glad you work for an employer that offers that good of an insurance plan......... THE FACTS ARE, THAT DOESN'T EXHIST FOR THE MAJORITY. No wonder you think everyone else is a dumbass, not getting insurance when all it would cost them is $52.....

      I'm glad Mitt is tired of people not supporting their local rip-off insurance agency..... We need more money for weapons, god damnit, and pro-life demonstrations.
      Last edited by Celtics86; 02-05-2008, 05:18 PM.

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      • #33
        just lost my plan (was working for a candidate that is no longer running.) Called the doc today, and thought about going until they asked what coverage I had. I said none, so I asked how much it would be, she said $315!!!!Crazy, and that was just for a check-up.
        "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Celtics86
          I'm glad you work for an employer that offers that good of an insurance plan......... THE FACTS ARE, THAT DOESN'T EXHIST FOR THE MAJORITY. No wonder you think everyone else is a dumbass, not getting insurance when all it would cost them is $52.....

          I'm glad Mitt is tired of people not supporting their local rip-off insurance agency..... We need more money for weapons, god damnit, and pro-life demonstrations.
          My insurance is $200 a month for just me. It's a damn ripoff

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          • #35
            Originally posted by grandmama
            just lost my plan (was working for a candidate that is no longer running.) Called the doc today, and thought about going until they asked what coverage I had. I said none, so I asked how much it would be, she said $315!!!!Crazy, and that was just for a check-up.
            If you're a new patient most Doctors charge $200-$250 to just open a file.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BettorsChat
              My insurance is $200 a month for just me. It's a damn ripoff
              Do you have a lot of prescrips? Go to the doctor a lot?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by kbsooner21
                Do you have a lot of prescrips? Go to the doctor a lot?
                No, I haven't been to a regular Doctor since I got it. And they raised it $30 per month on me, because of the region i'm in. As they said claims in the area went up.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BettorsChat
                  I suggest you learn about Tax Tariffs, because if you believe the Politicans have nothing to do with corporations moving jobs overseas then you don't know what you're talking about.
                  I'll try one more time since your insurance premiums must be muddling your thought process. The Govt can not force businesses to keep jobs here (once again my original point). Tariffs keep foreign goods artificially high (i.e. ethanol) which would be an effort to keep jobs here and not the opposite. Congress can provide incentives to stay or go but can't mandate anything (once again my only point in responding to one of your earlier posts).
                  "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have..." Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #39
                    We are in a baby boom thats from what I hear is as big as the 60's baby boom. 4.3 million babies born in 06' just reported. About 25% of those were hispanic. What % of them do you think is illegal? Well, they didnt say that, but we can just figure. So a little over 1 million hispanics...so lets say about 500,000 illegal babies born in this country every year! I even think this is being modest. Over 20% of California jails are illegals. Small pox outbreaks are on such a rise this country hasnt seen since the depression I think, because illegals are bringing many diseases across the border. Yes health care needs to be fixed, but first fix illegal immigration! Socialized medicine doenst work. We have the smartest and best doctors in the world for this reason. We need to def. go after the drug companies filling our heads with media propaganda that we all have some kindof phobia,mental disorder, or just bad genes, so we dope ourselves up to feel better....then we are hooked. Immigration also effects the economy. Most people think illegals only take jobs most of us dont want. Well, for the most part yes, but it does hurt the economy in a big way. For example Im in the construction field and Ive bid on many jobs against other guys that use illegals and it has gotten worse and worse. I install tile and the going rate on an average install was $5-$6 per. square foot about 5 years ago. What is it now? Its around $3 on average. Why have I talked so much that most of you wont read this? Its time we all come together and do something to stop illegal immigration, and its hardly talked about in rep. or dem. debates, and its effect on most on the important issues we face.
                    Last edited by rcmcd; 02-06-2008, 12:11 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rcmcd
                      We are in a baby boom thats from what I hear is as big as the 60's baby boom. 4.3 million babies born in 06' just reported. About 25% of those were hispanic. What % of them do you think is illegal? Well, they didnt say that, but we can just figure. So a little over 1 million hispanics...so lets say about 500,000 illegal babies born in this country every year! I even think this is being modest. Over 20% of California jails are illegals. Small pox outbreaks are on such a rise this country hasnt seen since the depression I think, because illegals are bringing many diseases across the border. Yes health care needs to be fixed, but first fix illegal immigration! Socialized medicine doenst work. We have the smartest and best doctors in the world for this reason. We need to def. go after the drug companies filling our heads with media propaganda that we all have some kindof phobia,mental disorder, or just bad genes, so we dope ourselves up to feel better....then we are hooked. Immigration also effects the economy. Most people think illegals only take jobs most of us dont want. Well, for the most part yes, but it does hurt the economy in a big way. For example Im in the construction field and Ive bid on many jobs against other guys that use illegals and it has gotten worse and worse. I install tile and the going rate on an average install was $5-$6 per. square foot about 5 years ago. What is it now? Its around $3 on average. Why have I talked so much that most of you wont read this? Its time we all come together and do something to stop illegal immigration, and its hardly talked about in rep. or dem. debates, and its effect on most on the important issues we face.
                      you're right on, and it wont be talked about by the Dems b/c they need their vote to get elected and thats sad!!!!!!! you have some great points
                      jordanrules..................

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by rcmcd
                        We are in a baby boom thats from what I hear is as big as the 60's baby boom. 4.3 million babies born in 06' just reported. About 25% of those were hispanic. What % of them do you think is illegal? Well, they didnt say that, but we can just figure. So a little over 1 million hispanics...so lets say about 500,000 illegal babies born in this country every year! I even think this is being modest. Over 20% of California jails are illegals. Small pox outbreaks are on such a rise this country hasnt seen since the depression I think, because illegals are bringing many diseases across the border. Yes health care needs to be fixed, but first fix illegal immigration! Socialized medicine doenst work. We have the smartest and best doctors in the world for this reason. We need to def. go after the drug companies filling our heads with media propaganda that we all have some kindof phobia,mental disorder, or just bad genes, so we dope ourselves up to feel better....then we are hooked. Immigration also effects the economy. Most people think illegals only take jobs most of us dont want. Well, for the most part yes, but it does hurt the economy in a big way. For example Im in the construction field and Ive bid on many jobs against other guys that use illegals and it has gotten worse and worse. I install tile and the going rate on an average install was $5-$6 per. square foot about 5 years ago. What is it now? Its around $3 on average. Why have I talked so much that most of you wont read this? Its time we all come together and do something to stop illegal immigration, and its hardly talked about in rep. or dem. debates, and its effect on most on the important issues we face.
                        Definitely some valid points. Enforcement is the key in curbing illegal immigration. It will be a better use of funds to step up policing of the companies using illegals than to build a fence.
                        "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have..." Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #42
                          Plus the Hispanic vote is a huge Clinton constituency. 66% to 33% in the CA primary vs Obama. Don't bet on anything meaningful getting done in terms of immigration if Hillary is our next President. It's sad to see what politics in this country has degraded to.
                          "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have..." Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BackDoorCvr
                            It's sad to see what politics in this country has degraded to.

                            You're right about something.............There are much bigger issues facing us right now than immigration, though...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Celtics86
                              You're right about something.............There are much bigger issues facing us right now than immigration, though...
                              Please read my previous post on how it effects most issues we face other than Iraq. We all have to wake up to the reality that we are losing our country. Read it please, and then respond.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BackDoorCvr
                                I'll try one more time since your insurance premiums must be muddling your thought process. The Govt can not force businesses to keep jobs here (once again my original point). Tariffs keep foreign goods artificially high (i.e. ethanol) which would be an effort to keep jobs here and not the opposite. Congress can provide incentives to stay or go but can't mandate anything (once again my only point in responding to one of your earlier posts).
                                It's called tax breaks for companies that outsource work overseas.

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