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  • Gun Bill Rewrites Law To Disarm More Americans

    Veterans Act may pass Senate, already through House

    Steve Watson
    Infowars.net
    Wednesday, Sept 26, 2007


    Anti-gun legislation that has already passed the House is set to be rammed through the Senate, paving the way for the disarmament of combat veterans and bar anyone who is deemed to be "a danger to themselves" from owning firearms.

    HR 2640, which has been dubbed the "veterans disarmament act" by gun owners, would place any veteran who has ever been diagnosed with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) on the federal gun ban list.

    The bill passed in the House in June and was later passed out of the Senate Judiciary Committee both times without a recorded vote. Gun owners have been trying to raise awareness and beat down the legislation ever since.

    The bill, sponsored by outspoken anti-second amendment representatives Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) and Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT), also applies to anyone who has been diagnosed with ADHD as a child and to anyone who develops Alzheimer's. Gun owners fear that in time the diagnosis of any kind of mental affliction could end with rights being stripped.

    Another of those behind the legislation is Senator Chuck Schumer who, according to Gun Owners of America, is circulating an "agreement" which would waive the Senate rules in order to bring up and pass the bill:

    This agreement is extremely diabolical, as it would eliminate the ability of pro-gun senators to offer amendments which would clean up the legislation... and would grease the skids for immediate passage!

    But there is good news: In order for Schumer's "agreement" to prevail, he must get "unanimous consent." This means that just ONE single senator can block it.

    The proposed legislation is another case that hinges on the government's incessant creation of psychological profiles for everything that are then used to categorize people and accordingly strip rights.

    Section 102((1)©(iv) in HR 2640 provides for dumping raw medical records into the system which will then, by law, serve as the basis for gun banning.

    Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America has compared the veteran's disarmament bill to actions undertaken by the Clinton Administration in the late 90s:

    This is exactly what President Bill Clinton did over seven years ago when his administration illegitimately added some 83,000 veterans into the National Criminal Information System (NICS system) -- prohibiting them from purchasing firearms, simply because of afflictions like PTSD.
    Pratt explains that the bill radically redefines key legal terms to allow gun ownership rights to be stripped on the findings of a psychiatric diagnosis, where in the past gun rights could only be withdrawn through an adjudication by a judge, magistrate or court with the protections of due process.

    Pratt also points out that although veterans affected by the bill could seek expungement under its terms, the expungement process in general has been blocked for over a decade by a "funds cut-off" engineered by Schumer himself.

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    The veterans disarmament act is tantamount to declaring the fear of an authoritarian government, the cornerstone of the second amendment, a mental illness. Once again we are witnessing another all out attack on the basic founding principles of the American Republic.

    The following action is recommended by Gun Owners of America:

    Please contact your two U.S. Senators RIGHT AWAY and urge them to OBJECT to Senator Chuck Schumer's "unanimous consent agreement" to steamroll H.R. 2640, the McCarthy anti-gun bill.

    You can use the pre-written message below and send it as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center (where phone and fax numbers are also available).

    ----- Pre-written letter-----
    Dear Senator:

    Currently, anti-gun zealot Chuck Schumer is trying to get "unanimous consent" to steamroll the Senate in connection with Carolyn McCarthy’s anti-gun bill, H.R. 2640.

    If this bill is passed, an American would be barred from owning guns if:

    * He is a U.S. veteran suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; or

    * As a kid, he was diagnosed with ADHD in connection with the IDEA program.

    Not to mention the fact that an ailing grandfather could have his entire gun collection seized, based only on a diagnosis of Alzheimer's from a Medicare home health provider (and there goes the family inheritance).

    Gun owners don't support this legislation, better known as the Veterans Disarmament Act. The Military Order of the Purple Heart is opposed to it, having stated on June 18 of this year, that "For the first time the legislation, if enacted, would statutorily impose a lifetime gun ban on battle-scarred veterans."

    Please place a hold on the McCarthy bill and object to any unanimous consent agreement to discharge the bill.

    Sincerely,

  • #2
    I may go buy a new gun today.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by kbsooner21
      I may go buy a new gun today.
      Takes a week

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BettorsChat
        Takes a week
        Wanna bet?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kbsooner21
          Wanna bet?
          If you're buying it from an individual it doesn't matter. From a store its a week geek

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BettorsChat
            If you're buying it from an individual it doesn't matter. From a store its a week geek
            Not when I bought my 357. They ran my license and made a call to someone and I had it in 20 minutes.

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            • #7
              I bought a new pistol and brought it home with me today Montell

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              • #8
                come on in hick ville u get guns faster trying to slow down the imbreeding process lmao
                rjeremy for my accounts manager/i love how he keeps numbers

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kbsooner21
                  I bought a new pistol and brought it home with me today Montell
                  WTF I thought there was a Federal Rule on waiting after filling out a form.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BettorsChat
                    WTF I thought there was a Federal Rule on waiting after filling out a form.
                    You seem upset by this?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kbsooner21
                      You seem upset by this?
                      Of course they have to do a background check.

                      What did you buy?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BettorsChat
                        Of course they have to do a background check.

                        What did you buy?
                        They do, do a background check. You have to fill out a form answering questions such as, have you ever been convicted of a felon? Been treated for depression or what not? Illegal alien? Then they run your license, call and do a background check, takes like 20 minutes.

                        I have a Ruger 357 Magnum and the other day I bought a Walther P22 pistol

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                        • #13
                          Which makes gun controll a NON issue imo. No one is going to take guns away. The right loves to use the "gun issue" as a wedge just to have a difference between the parties, just like adortion. The right likes to make you think that the left is going to take guns out of you hands, and the left likes to make you think that they are going to take guns out of your hands. I'm a lefty and we own too guns. I feel that most Americans who want gun controll don't want to take guns away. like myself, I just want gun laws that make sense.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kbsooner21
                            They do, do a background check. You have to fill out a form answering questions such as, have you ever been convicted of a felon? Been treated for depression or what not? Illegal alien? Then they run your license, call and do a background check, takes like 20 minutes.

                            I have a Ruger 357 Magnum and the other day I bought a Walther P22 pistol
                            So if you've been treated for depression you can't get a gun?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BettorsChat
                              So if you've been treated for depression you can't get a gun?
                              I don't necessarily know if that's the case. I just know it was one of the questions that was asked. I think if you answer yes to it, they want to know more information, maybe like your symptoms, how serious it was, how it was treated, etc. You'd have to ask someone who knows a little more about it.

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