whatever happened to capturing bin laden and no presence of al qaedi in Iraq before W

[musclemann]

Still havent captured bin laden and al qaedi didnt exist in iraq until bush INVADED IRAQ. Terrorism is here and al qaedi stronger than ever thanks to your president. Since he has given them a country to hideout in (in Iraq )this crap will be going on for years to come.

[kbsooner21]

[jcindaville]

al qaeda

Not al gaedi



signed


KB Sooner

[Three Jack]

Terrorism is here

Where? You got the 411 on them? Fill us in!!!

[ULikeApples]

al qaedi didnt exist in iraq until bush INVADED IRAQ.

100% false. No-known ties of them to Saddam is one thing, but not existing is another thing.

[Three Jack]

100% false. No-known ties of them to Saddam is one thing, but not existing is another thing.

The whole statement multiple errors in it...let's just let the haters hate. They can always move to Canada if they hate it here so much.

[jordanrules23]

[jordanrules23]

Still havent captured bin laden and al qaedi didnt exist in iraq until bush INVADED IRAQ. Terrorism is here and al qaedi stronger than ever thanks to your president. Since he has given them a country to hideout in (in Iraq )this crap will be going on for years to come.

LMAo, jus wait and see what happens if the Muslim or Cunt Clinton get elected you moron!!!!

[baseballdave]

Sorry about this repost but if you don't like it here or if you think its better somewhere else - LEAVE !!!
My son-in-law just got back from afganistian. He might not agree with everything that is being done but he went to fight so that we have the right to our freedom. The media lies and manipulates things to stir the negative. This is a FACT. Some things he has told me that REALLY go on over in Iraq are twisted BIG time by the media to suit who they want and to sell their articles. Don't believe half of what you read. Talk to someone who has been there.
dave




#1 Today, 11:20 AM
baseballdave
Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,283

For All Of You That Are Unhappy With This Country

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> Jay Leno wrote this; it's the Jay Leno we don't often see....
>
> "The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some
poll
> data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true given the
source, right?
>
> The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy
with
> the direction the country is headed and 69 percent of the country is
unhappy with the performance
> of the president. In essence 2/3s of the citizenry just ain't happy
and want a change.
>
> So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, ''What we
are so unhappy about?''
>
> Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7
days
> a week? Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in
the summer and heating in the winter?
> Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job?
Maybe it is the ability to walk into a
> grocery store at any time and see more food in moments than Darfur
has seen in the last year?
>
> Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the
Atlantic
> Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move
througheach state?
> Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along
the way that can provide temporary shelter?
> I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from
around theworld is just not good enough.
> Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up
and provide services to help all and
> even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.
>
> Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home.
You may be upset with knowing that in
> the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will
appear in moments and use top notch
> equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and
yourbelongings.
> Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a
burglar or prowler intrudes ,
> an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to
defend you and your family against
> attack or loss. This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of
bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents.
> Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and
computers.
>
> How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we
enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world?
> Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.
>
> Fact is, we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the
world has ever seen.
> No wonder the world loves the U.S. , yet has a great disdain for
its citizens.
> They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world
who do nothing but complain about what we
> don't have , and what we hate about the country instead of thanking
the good Lord we live here.
>
> I know, I know. What about the president who took us into war and
has no plan to get us out?
> The president who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this
the same president who guided the nation in
> the dark days after 9/11? The president that cut taxes to bring an
economy out of recession?
> Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book
for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled
> ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks?
>
> The commander in chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there
defending you and me?
> Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did
this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you
> couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good things
and be glad?
>
> Think about it......are you upset at the President because he
actually caused you personal pain OR
> is it because the "Media" told you he was failing to kiss your sorry
ungrateful behind every day.
>
> Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have
volunteered to serve,
> and in many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently
no draft in this country.
> They didn't have to go.
>
> They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a ''general''
discharge, an ''other than honorable'' discharge or,
> worst case scenario, a ''dishonorable'' discharge after a few days
in the brig.
>
> So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent
of Americans?
> Say what you want but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds it leads
and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car
> crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade
at the corner?
> The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations.
They offer what sells , and when criticized, try to defend
> their actions by "justifying" them in one way or another. Just ask
why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson
> to write a book about how he didn't kill his wife, but if he did he
would have done it this way......Insane!
>
> Stop buying the negativism you are fed everyday by the media. Shut
off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the
> New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being
grateful for all we have as a country.
> There is exponentially more good than bad.
>
> We are among the most blessed people on Earth and should thank God
> several times a day, or at least be thankful and appreciative."
>
> "With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides,
flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country
> from one end to another, andwith the threat of bird flu and
terrorist attacks, "Are we sure this is a good time to take
> God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?"
>
> Jay Leno
>

[husker]

great post!!!

[Spearit]

Nice quote Dave. Awesome really! My son-in-law has had 3 tours in Iraq. Nicest kid anywhere.
Just my thoughts! As a Vietnam vet myself, I realize the mentality of those on both sides of the war. Frustration is growing as terrorists are becoming what Nostradamus indicated back in the 12th or 13th century. I remembered he mentioned a dude with a blue turbin and that 2009 or 2010 would be the apocalypse. Scary! Not much is said about that- but it makes you wonder.

As for those not taking score- Terrorists (be it which ever group you wish to call) have invaded all aspects of the worlds economy- which is the overall plan- bankrupt the countries by fear. Those countries sitting back are hoping it doesn't come to them.

But in reality T. cells are formulating and its not just Bush creating the problem. Martyrs are generally drugged up to carry out the plan. Their families are suppose to be taken care of. The civilians killed in a terrorists compound are alot of these families but to the world it looks as if we massacred (misspelled) the civilians of Iraq.

I don't have answered- I believe we opened a pandoras box by attacking Iraq without proof of wmd. Saddam was an ass and tortured many but he stabilized the region of so many factions. Now by leaving - I think of the those surrounding Saigon that could not retreat and it is sad- if this happens in Iraq. The killing will just begin then. Life as they knew it will be a memory. Iran and Syria will embark on presenting their style of government. Kuwait will tremble once again.

Before anyone can understand the full measure of terrorists activity- one has to understand the culture. Since the culture is divided up in religios sects- the purging of these sects as history has seen- is mindboggling.
We may have less than 5000 killed but the plight of dealing with terrorists must also include the folks we lost in 911.

On that note- I believe Iraq should not have been invaded in hindsight.
I believe that Bush will put alot of effort in getting Bin Laden in the upcoming months, the civil war will continue in Iraq, the american interests worldwide will get considerable attention, Pakistan will be getting more press coverage as it is believed that Bin Laden is hiding there on the border, news media will continue to give away vital locations and underscore the war as propaganda for the terrorists, Bush will be backed into a corner by not having the money to continue on and the Americans coming home from the war will be scarred from many aspects of this war.

The only hope is that we take the fight to them before they take it to us. The Russians could not defeat Afganistan which was their Viet Nam. We can endured the war much longer in the way we are going! So We must either get the International community to pitch in oreventually go bankrupt trying to kill cockroaches over many countries. Nuff said!

[husker]

another great post. i give Bush credit for taking a chance, most politicians don't want to do that. people that are willing to take a risk are the ones that are remembered, good or bad. time will tell.

you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. if you don't take out a brutal dictator, you are criticized, and if you do and the country is destabilized, your criticized. you can try and help a country, but if they don't want to help themselves, walk away and let them fight it out themselves.

it doesn't matter who is in office. the press and opposition party will find something to criticize. it has gotten out of control. all they care about is themselves, not the good of the country. the opposite of our soldiers!

[BearDown]

[QUOTE=baseballdave]Sorry about this repost but if you don't like it here or if you think its better somewhere else - LEAVE !!!



This just is not on you Dave, it's to everyone who makes this STUPID ASS STATEMENT!

I don't have to LEAVE if I don't like it. The way I see it is that it's my job to STAY and make it a better place. It's called a DEMOCRACY. But you guys on the right get Democracy and Dictatorship mixed up all the time. And it shows with that statement!