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    How would you feel about a winless champion in NASCAR? And what if that champion was Dale Earnhardt Jr.?

    Even in an era with increased emphasis (still not enough) on winning, a driver could win the Sprint Cup championship without winning a race.

    At the quarter pole of the 2012 season, winless Earnhardt is only five points behind Greg Biffle for the top spot in the standings.

    Win or lose, Dale Earnhardt Jr. remains the most popular driver in NASCAR.

    Earnhardt is one of five drivers in the top 10 who haven't won through the first nine races. The others are Martin Truex Jr., Jimmie Johnson, Kevin Harvick and Carl Edwards.

    I'll take a wild guess and say that your feelings on a winless champ would vary greatly depending on who did it.

    Junior? No problem. He is NASCAR's most popular driver, even though readers who comment on our stories love to rip him. But media attention would reach a Tim Tebow- or Jeremy Lin-type frenzy if Earnhardt was heading toward a championship down the playoff stretch, regardless of whether he won a race.

    However, take almost anyone else and make that driver a winless champion, and many fans (along with many reporters) would scream for a new points system. Edwards was one point short of being a one-win champion last year.

    A one-win champ was a factor in starting the Chase playoff system after Matt Kenseth won the last pre-Chase title with one victory in 2003.

    Kurt Busch won the first Chase with only three victories for the season, but every champion since 2005 has won at least five races, including last year, when Tony Stewart became the first driver to win five Chase races.

    The closest any driver has come to a winless championship in the Chase era was Harvick in 2008, when he was a distant fourth, 276 points behind champ Johnson.

    But it's not impossible, even though winless drivers start the Chase below the drivers who have won races. Each victory is worth three points, so even if the man on top has five wins, a 15-point deficit isn't much to make up for the driver who starts the playoff without a win.

    It's 15 spots in one race, not counting bonus points -- one for leading a lap, one for leading the most laps and three for winning.

    So what are the odds of seeing a winless champ? Not good, but I would say the chances of it are better than two guys finishing the season tied for the top spot in the points, which we saw last year.

    For those of you who predict Earnhardt never will win again, I disagree, but you could be right. He also could win the title while fulfilling your prediction.

  • #2
    Think the 88 wins today at dega
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    • #3
      Originally posted by tech fan View Post
      Think the 88 wins today at dega
      $1,000 says 88 don't win today!!!!!!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by vols fan View Post
        $1,000 says 88 don't win today!!!!!!
        I'll go $10,000 that 88 dont win today
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        • #5
          If somebody wins the championship without winning a race,then it will be a huge embarrasment for the sport.I think the 88 will probably win a race on gas mileage,but to get up on the wheel and dominate,it aint gonna happen.And no,he wont win a cup race today,maybe a nationwide though.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Big Country 5 View Post
            If somebody wins the championship without winning a race,then it will be a huge embarrasment for the sport.I think the 88 will probably win a race on gas mileage,but to get up on the wheel and dominate,it aint gonna happen.And no,he wont win a cup race today,maybe a nationwide though.
            How many races did Kenseth Win when he Won the Championship in '03. Hint, one ... how many Top 10's ? 25

            I thought for the longest time that was WHY they changed the points system. It was truely the MOST Boring Championship run.
            IMO

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            • #7
              I would laugh at nascar as a whole..As i already do anyway... To be the only sport to win a championship and not win at all during the season is a joke... I hope it does happen though...then we can see the outrage that will become a laughing mess!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by The Lovedoc View Post
                I would laugh at nascar as a whole..As i already do anyway... To be the only sport to win a championship and not win at all during the season is a joke... I hope it does happen though...then we can see the outrage that will become a laughing mess!
                Thank you LD for your Add nothing to the conversation comment .
                Aren't you missing out on the Table Tennis Championship by reading all these post ??

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Lovedoc View Post
                  I would laugh at nascar as a whole..As i already do anyway... To be the only sport to win a championship and not win at all during the season is a joke... I hope it does happen though...then we can see the outrage that will become a laughing mess!
                  $200 says he wins a race?

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                  • #10
                    And LoveDoc will not be heard from again in this thread

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                    • #11
                      Vols,if you re-read my posts,I said I think he will win A race.So I'll pass on the bet.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Big Country 5 View Post
                        Vols,if you re-read my posts,I said I think he will win A race.So I'll pass on the bet.
                        AND IF YOU CAN READ you will see that I posted that bet to Lovedocs post. Seriously are you Jr haters that dumb?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kbsooner21 View Post
                          And LoveDoc will not be heard from again in this thread
                          NOPE!!! I sent him $200 last year for a bet I lost and he won't even give me a chance to win it back. He's scared cause the 88 is fast.

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                          • #14
                            No offense to Wayne for posting this thread but seriously this is the most worthless argument of all time. 9 races in and yall want to declare Jr the champ without winning a race and argue about it. DUMBASS IMO!!!!!!!!.

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                            • #15
                              Lets just assume 32 races into the season that this MIGHT be a topic of discussion then thats fine!!! BUT Jr sucks so bad to most of you that you think he still could miss the chase for sure. Yet yall are arguing for him to win the championship

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