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    As evidence contiues to pile up on the plains, it seems that they really are going to have the book thrown at them within the next couple of weeks. This goes way beyond Cam. They say the FBI, while monitoring the Bingo mess in Montgomery and also investigating the misappropriation of TARP funds by Colonial Bank, uncovered many, many things. Such things include guaranteed winning slot machines for AU players at Milt’s (Colonial Board member, AU Booster) Casino, unmarked ATM cards issued to AU players from Colonial Bank (Bobby Lowder-AU Board Member and Booster; Pat Dye-Colonial Board member, AU employee and Booster), forgiven loans to families, friends, donors, etc.

    If true, big time jail time, loss of SACS accreditation which means expulsion from the SEC, huge financial implications for AU, removal of Dye’s name from the field and so on.

    Also, the AU President wanted to sit Cam last Saturday, but was overridden by Lowder, Dye, Jacobs, Rane and McGregor
    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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    From TOS insider

    Someone forwarded me a story out of Montgomery that, if true, really means Auburn and Newton are dirty. Here it is :
    McGregor and 10 others are scheduled for arraignment Friday morning in federal court in Montgomery on charges accusing them of buying and selling votes on pro-gambling legislation.
    The bigger picture here is that the Feds have been investigating Milton McGregor (A major Auburn Booster and the owner of VictoryLand, which is located just outside of Montgomery) for quite some time. The Feds are investigating efforts to pass gambling legislation in Alabama and money laundering schemes involving McGregor and other prominent Alabama politicians and Auburn boosters.

    The Feds have tape from wire taps made on McGregor and other prominent Auburn boosters from their investigation. The Newton's were just shopping their talent's to the wrong people at the wrong time and thus there is hard evidence available that incriminates everyone involved. It's only a matter of time that all of this information becomes public.

    FBI found out about Cam before the NCAA did while wiretapping Milton McGregor and others related to the casino/bingo indictments. They uncovered conversations with McGregor, Auburn and Cam's uncle in Michigan. McGregor paid $250K to the uncle through a PAC and other hidden entities and the uncle funneled the money to Cecil.

    The FBI gave this information to the NCAA sometime after the indictments were handed down. They had to sit on the information for 6 months until the grand jury indicted the men and women in the gambling deal. All of the wiretap information was sealed and that is why the delay in investigating. The NCAA had to go to Miss St to see if Cecil had solicited money from them as well. That is why Miss St is involved. They are basically connecting all of the dots. Miss St may be cleared because they told Cecil no. He then went to Auburn. The offer was on the table from McGregor but Cam wanted to play at Miss St and not Auburn. When Miss St declined to pay him, he went to where the money was... hence the comment, "The money was too much." The FBI met with the Miss St coaches, John Bond and Bill Bell today to get their official statements.
    "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." -Mark Twain

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    • #3
      Auburn and Cam Newton are as dirty as you can get. I need no other proof than Cam Newton saying he chose Auburn because the money wa too great. I hope this all comes down before the NC game

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      • #4
        Originally posted by grandmama View Post
        As evidence contiues to pile up on the plains, it seems that they really are going to have the book thrown at them within the next couple of weeks. This goes way beyond Cam. They say the FBI, while monitoring the Bingo mess in Montgomery and also investigating the misappropriation of TARP funds by Colonial Bank, uncovered many, many things. Such things include guaranteed winning slot machines for AU players at Milt’s (Colonial Board member, AU Booster) Casino, unmarked ATM cards issued to AU players from Colonial Bank (Bobby Lowder-AU Board Member and Booster; Pat Dye-Colonial Board member, AU employee and Booster), forgiven loans to families, friends, donors, etc.

        If true, big time jail time, loss of SACS accreditation which means expulsion from the SEC, huge financial implications for AU, removal of Dye’s name from the field and so on.

        Also, the AU President wanted to sit Cam last Saturday, but was overridden by Lowder, Dye, Jacobs, Rane and McGregor
        If the NCAA/SEC don't want to do anything they won't. ASK UF.... Google TANK BLACK..

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        • #5
          GAINESVILLE - University of Florida police filed a sworn complaint Thursday against agent William ``Tank'' Black, asking the State Attorney's Office to charge Black and associate Alfred ``Tweet'' Twitty with three felony counts of unlicensed agent activity.According to a university police report, a 10-month investigation has revealed Black, who runs Professional Management Inc. and has signed a stable of former Florida players in the past three years, aided Twitty, a PMI employee, in making cash payments and buying gifts for former Gators Jevon Kearse, Reggie McGrew and Johnny Rutledge.

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          • #6
            investigating the misappropriation of TARP funds by Colonial Bank, uncovered many, many things. Such things include guaranteed winning slot machines for AU players at Milt’s (Colonial Board member, AU Booster) Casino, unmarked ATM cards issued to AU players from Colonial Bank (Bobby Lowder-AU Board Member and Booster; Pat Dye-Colonial Board member, AU employee and Booster), forgiven loans to families, friends, donors, etc.


            The FDIC shut this bank down in 2009 at the cost of $2.8 billion of our tax payer money. Like the 6th largest bank failure in history.

            It is easy to see why, after reading articles like the above.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ravenmaniac View Post
              Auburn and Cam Newton are as dirty as you can get. I need no other proof than Cam Newton saying he chose Auburn because the money wa too great. I hope this all comes down before the NC game
              I disagree strongly with this. Auburn went undefeated in 04 and got left out while cheat Reggie Bush's USC won the title and another the next year... Guess what those both stand as title winners. Nice job by the 70 year olds in the commitee leaving out Auburn that year for Jason White on his 8th knee too.

              Auburn deserves at least a chance for a cheater title.

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              • #8
                Seems like everyone is cheating lwa...

                Just a matter of time before they get caught!
                Seems like a game any more "catch me of you can" sort of thing.

                Some people get in deeper than others.. I wouldn't be surprised if something else comes out by year end against Bruce Pearl. Sorry just the way I see it... Just a BBQ? Hmmm perhaps bit I think someone may be digging deeper. Anyway don't know where Is going with Newton. Normally this type of thing comes out off season or after the season is over. The NCAA has there hands full with this one!

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                • #9
                  difference here to me, unless I am missing something, is the FBI being involved. With all the bank bail out money this is not going away.........question is if not quickly handled and AU goes to and/or wins national and subsequently loses due to the infractions are they better off then if they sit him and take their chances (if any) without him ???

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                  • #10
                    $Scam Newton......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bryce View Post
                      Seems like everyone is cheating lwa...

                      Just a matter of time before they get caught!
                      Seems like a game any more "catch me of you can" sort of thing.

                      Some people get in deeper than others.. I wouldn't be surprised if something else comes out by year end against Bruce Pearl. Sorry just the way I see it... Just a BBQ? Hmmm perhaps bit I think someone may be digging deeper. Anyway don't know where Is going with Newton. Normally this type of thing comes out off season or after the season is over. The NCAA has there hands full with this one!


                      More power to the NCAA if they find something else on Pearl, but I will quit liking NCAAB if they suspend TENN over a dinner at Pearl's house. We got slime like John Cal, who just moves schools when crap hits the fan, he is the most crooked guy ever, Id punch him if I see him.

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                      • #12
                        Strange that the rumors of Derrick Rose had someone take his ACT test for him. That actually went deeper as it was rumored that a couple of other players also cheated on the ACT while CAL was at Memphis. They just gave them a slap on the wrist for that, vacated games when they didnt win the NCAAT. Thats like breaking the biggest rule ever and they did not investigate that thoroughly.

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                        • #13
                          Didn't Auburn just come off a suspension from playing in Bowl games not too long ago? Doesn't seem like they have learned jack shit.

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                          • #14
                            At least Boise State and TCU have legitimate reasons to say they deserve a title shot now!!
                            Quitters Never Win, Winners Will NEVER Quit

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                            • #15
                              I think the real question is there any school that this does not occur at, on some level ??? This is like a bunch of steroid users being lined up vs a group of clean, naturally aspirated young men and think that things are equal ??? Or maybe better said..... the Yanks vs the expos .......lol

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