Lebron to the Heat is a no brainer

[musclemann]

with those three in miami no one i mean no one in the east will stop them...................


That will be a great match up though miami vs los angeles next year

[wayne1218]

Im not disagreeing that he did give up on that particular game...but fact is his team either couldnt or just didnt do shit to help him win...Kobe didnt beat ur Celtics by himself, some would argue he had the worse game of the series in game 7 and they still came back to win...if they had lost would you say Kobe quit...its just a matter of not having enough help...switch Lebron with Kobe and Lakers still win it all and even if you switch him with Pierce, the Celts probably win it all.

It wasn't just one game that he quit in my friend, go watch the end of the others too. As far as kobe goes, he NEVER stopped trying unlike Lebron and in that final game he did step it up in the 4th with 10 points and he did end the game with 15 rebounds. Lebron isn't even in Kobe's class when it comes to winning WHEN IT COUNTS!

[ogarza]

Again i disagree. They had an up and coming PG in Rondo and a proven defender in Posey ...... and please don't compare that STIFF Chalmers to Rondo!!

Wasnt Rondo just a rookie that year...he didnt really bust out until this year, when injuries to the big 3 forced him to take a bigger role and he did the most with it. I have to say I never thought Rondo would be as good as he is, but this year he blew me away time and time again. He definitely needs to work on his FTs

[wayne1218]

1) Cleveland has nothing to offer? They've won 60+ games for two straight years and before that, they were in the Finals! It's a solid team...
2) Miami does not have everything! Miami doesn't even have a legit big man!!! Bynum would eat Bosh up. And even in the East, Boston has Perkins, Davis and now O'Neal to throw at Bosh... That's 12 fouls!!! Maybe more! Bosh is no match for Howard either! So, everything? Really? I mean, they have a lot, make no mistake, but to echo Wayne's point, three guys with no bench is NOT a lock to win titles.
3) And cut it out with the income tax thing, man. He has more money than he could ever spend... even if he had a horrible drug addiction... Who gives a f%#^ about income tax? Hah! He craps income tax!




BINGO!!!

My point exactly. It is total CRAP to say the Cavs had nothing. They had the best fuckin record in the league the last 2 years and when i posted who will win the NBA title poll, all of you guys were hanging on the Cavs nuts by a wide margin and NOBODY said Lebron had nobody around him than!

[wayne1218]

Wasnt Rondo just a rookie that year...he didnt really bust out until this year, when injuries to the big 3 forced him to take a bigger role and he did the most with it. I have to say I never thought Rondo would be as good as he is, but this year he blew me away time and time again. He definitely needs to work on his FTs

No, he wasn't. This is year 5 coming up

[ogarza]

It wasn't just one game that he quit in my friend, go watch the end of the others too. As far as kobe goes, he NEVER stopped trying unlike Lebron and in that final game he did step it up in the 4th with 10 points and he did end the game with 15 rebounds. Lebron isn't even in Kobe's class when it comes to winning WHEN IT COUNTS!

Would you agree though that looking back at that Celtics-Cavs series, no matter what Lebron did there was no way he was going to beat the Celts...Rondo, Pierce, Allen, Garnett, Big Baby, even Sheed at times all stepped up big time throughout the series...not a single person from Cavs helped, shit one game I dont even remember Mo Williams scoring...the overall team means a lot, Lakers would have been beat by Celts in 6 if it were not for Gasol, Odom, Fisher, even shannon brown and Farmer had thier moments...

[wayne1218]

Would you agree though that looking back at that Celtics-Cavs series, no matter what Lebron did there was no way he was going to beat the Celts...Rondo, Pierce, Allen, Garnett, Big Baby, even Sheed at times all stepped up big time throughout the series...not a single person from Cavs helped, shit one game I dont even remember Mo Williams scoring...the overall team means a lot, Lakers would have been beat by Celts in 6 if it were not for Gasol, Odom, Fisher, even shannon brown and Farmer had thier moments...

No, Lebron is the clear leader on that team and he did NOTHING to lead them that WHOLE series. No inspiration once in that series. Of course if he quits they are screwed!

[ogarza]

My point exactly. It is total CRAP to say the Cavs had nothing. They had the best fuckin record in the league the last 2 years and when i posted who will win the NBA title poll, all of you guys were hanging on the Cavs nuts by a wide margin and NOBODY said Lebron had nobody around him than!

Its not that they had no one...but seriously compare Clevelands roster with that of the Celtics, Lakers and Magic...I would even say Suns, Spurs, Nuggets have a better and deeper roster.

[BigWeiner]

My point exactly. It is total CRAP to say the Cavs had nothing. They had the best fuckin record in the league the last 2 years and when i posted who will win the NBA title poll, all of you guys were hanging on the Cavs nuts by a wide margin and NOBODY said Lebron had nobody around him than!

I didn't the Cavs had nothing, I said Cleveland. I've been to Cleveland and I've been to Miami. If you've been to both, you know what I'm saying.

[wayne1218]

Its not that they had no one...but seriously compare Clevelands roster with that of the Celtics, Lakers and Magic...I would even say Suns, Spurs, Nuggets have a better and deeper roster.

They had the BEST RECORD IN THE NBA two years running and they beat all those teams you mentioned. In the playoffs, they choked every time and Lebron NEVER carried them to victories like other stars have done in the past.

[wayne1218]

I didn't the Cavs had nothing, I said Cleveland. I've been to Cleveland and I've been to Miami. If you've been to both, you know what I'm saying.

I've been to Cleveland too and there is NO WAY i would ever live there. It was dirty and dangerous and there wasn't much to like about it IMO.

[BigWeiner]

The Heat have Beasley and Chalmers, obviously Rondo is better those guys now, but at the time the Celtics got the big three, nobody thought he was all that great.

[ogarza]

No, Lebron is the clear leader on that team and he did NOTHING to lead them that WHOLE series. No inspiration once in that series. Of course if he quits they are screwed!

Ok you got me, Im not going to argue it cuz Im a Rockets fan regardless, just a few opinions I had...I just feel Lebron gets more shit than he deserves...he does more for his team that any other single player in the league...problem is to win a title it takes a team, not a single player...Kobe wouldnt of got his 4th and 5th without the trade for Gasol and oh course he won his first 3 with Shaq...Celts had thier big 3 when they won...usually you need 2 to 3 bigtime players not a huge star and 8 role players.

[BigWeiner]

I've been to Cleveland too and there is NO WAY i would ever live there. It was dirty and dangerous and there wasn't much to like about it IMO.

That's the understatement of the year. I'm telling you, this is the biggest no brainer in the history of free agency. Miami all things include, Cleveland all things include. The place, the coach, the players, the taxes. No brainer.

[wayne1218]

Ok you got me, Im not going to argue it cuz Im a Rockets fan regardless, just a few opinions I had...I just feel Lebron gets more shit than he deserves...he does more for his team that any other single player in the league...problem is to win a title it takes a team, not a single player...Kobe wouldnt of got his 4th and 5th without the trade for Gasol and oh course he won his first 3 with Shaq...Celts had thier big 3 when they won...usually you need 2 to 3 bigtime players not a huge star and 8 role players.

Some players make the ones around them better. Gasol was good but Kobe has made him great. Scottie Pippen a top 50 player? Did you see him when Jordan went to play baseball? Was he a top 50 player than? Lebron, the walking media leach brings this ALL on himself by doing things like he is tonight calling to get his own 1 hour ESPN special and by having "The Chosen One" tattooed on his back and by having the nickname "King" James, another thing he loved. I don't feel sorry for him at all.