Championship Weekend discussion.....

[jcindaville]

Can we get some discussion going from any NON FANS of the teams involved or NON division rival fans etc please?

Flacco in the playoffs

24-45 for 223 yards and no TD's and 3 picks. I am not being biased because I am a Steeler fan and hate Flacco, those numbers dont lie, he sucks!!!

53% Completions and 3 picks in two games, come on Chad, that is hideous!!!

[vonwater11]

Dave..if i understand the system it is 30-12...well then it could lose again right...I think the saints/minny game will be the best game to watch if minny shows up and not play like they did against zona and the panthers. That being said both have good def and off so it should be a great game better than the superbowl matchup only my thoughts....both looked awesome last week and the touchdown at the end everyone is so upset about could give minny some fire to play on..cant wait for this game

[Chado1]

Flacco in the playoffs

24-45 for 223 yards and no TD's and 3 picks. I am not being biased because I am a Steeler fan and hate Flacco, those numbers dont lie, he sucks!!!

53% Completions and 3 picks in two games, come on Chad, that is hideous!!!

Good point thats brutal..

[dave T]

Dave..if i understand the system it is 30-12...well then it could lose again right...I think the saints/minny game will be the best game to watch if minny shows up and not play like they did against zona and the panthers. That being said both have good def and off so it should be a great game better than the superbowl matchup only my thoughts....both looked awesome last week and the touchdown at the end everyone is so upset about could give minny some fire to play on..cant wait for this game

The system is 3-0 this season, including when the Cardinals beat the Vikes. Here's a couple b-chat links that might help:

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/me...nt-forget.html

http://www.bettorschat.com/forums/me...must-read.html

[husker]

Flacco in the playoffs

24-45 for 223 yards and no TD's and 3 picks. I am not being biased because I am a Steeler fan and hate Flacco, those numbers dont lie, he sucks!!!

53% Completions and 3 picks in two games, come on Chad, that is hideous!!!

i guess tom brady sucks also! 23/42, 154 YDS, 2 TD, 3 INT


flacco was the #13 rated QB in the nfl this year. numbers don't lie?

not saying he is a great QB, but FAR from sucks.

[jcindaville]

i guess tom brady sucks also! 23/42, 154 YDS, 2 TD, 3 INT


flacco was the #13 rated QB in the nfl this year. numbers don't lie?

not saying he is a great QB, but FAR from sucks.

Brady has multiple superbowl rings and MVP trophies Husker, geeze come on man!!!

Brady had one bad game, flacco is not that good, and his playoffs were hideous over 2 games, not one.

[jcindaville]

i guess tom brady sucks also! 23/42, 154 YDS, 2 TD, 3 INT


flacco was the #13 rated QB in the nfl this year. numbers don't lie?

not saying he is a great QB, but FAR from sucks.

well maybe when its the regular season he is 13, but in the post season when it matters most, he sucks. numbers dont lie

Quarterback Rating Leaders - All PlayersRK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 2 1 50.0 76 38.00 76 1 0 0 135.4 76
2 Brett Favre, QB MIN 24 15 62.5 234 9.75 47 4 0 3 134.4 234
3 Kurt Warner, QB ARI 59 46 78.0 584 9.90 33 5 1 2 129.1 292
4 Drew Brees, QB NOR 32 23 71.9 247 7.72 44 3 0 0 125.4 247
5 Aaron Rodgers, QB GNB 42 28 66.7 423 10.07 44 4 1 5 121.4 423
6 Mark Sanchez, QB NYJ 38 24 63.2 282 7.42 45 2 1 1 92.2 141
7 Peyton Manning, QB IND 44 30 68.2 246 5.59 20 2 1 2 87.9 246
8 Matt Leinart, QB ARI 10 7 70.0 61 6.10 16 0 0 0 85.8 61
9 Tony Romo, QB DAL 70 45 64.3 442 6.31 36 2 1 8 85.5 221
10 Philip Rivers, QB SDG 40 27 67.5 298 7.45 37 1 2 2 76.9 298
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Donovan McNabb, QB PHI 37 19 51.4 230 6.22 27 1 1 4 68.5 230
12 Carson Palmer, QB CIN 36 18 50.0 146 4.06 19 1 1 3 58.3 146
13 Tom Brady, QB NWE 42 23 54.8 154 3.67 24 2 3 3 49.1 154
14 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 45 24 53.3 223 4.96 27 0 3 1 39.4 112

[husker]

well maybe when its the regular season he is 13, but in the post season when it matters most, he sucks. numbers dont lie

Quarterback Rating Leaders - All PlayersRK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
1 Michael Vick, QB PHI 2 1 50.0 76 38.00 76 1 0 0 135.4 76
2 Brett Favre, QB MIN 24 15 62.5 234 9.75 47 4 0 3 134.4 234
3 Kurt Warner, QB ARI 59 46 78.0 584 9.90 33 5 1 2 129.1 292
4 Drew Brees, QB NOR 32 23 71.9 247 7.72 44 3 0 0 125.4 247
5 Aaron Rodgers, QB GNB 42 28 66.7 423 10.07 44 4 1 5 121.4 423
6 Mark Sanchez, QB NYJ 38 24 63.2 282 7.42 45 2 1 1 92.2 141
7 Peyton Manning, QB IND 44 30 68.2 246 5.59 20 2 1 2 87.9 246
8 Matt Leinart, QB ARI 10 7 70.0 61 6.10 16 0 0 0 85.8 61
9 Tony Romo, QB DAL 70 45 64.3 442 6.31 36 2 1 8 85.5 221
10 Philip Rivers, QB SDG 40 27 67.5 298 7.45 37 1 2 2 76.9 298
RK PLAYER TEAM ATT COMP PCT YDS YDS/A LONG TD INT SACK RATE YDS/G
11 Donovan McNabb, QB PHI 37 19 51.4 230 6.22 27 1 1 4 68.5 230
12 Carson Palmer, QB CIN 36 18 50.0 146 4.06 19 1 1 3 58.3 146
13 Tom Brady, QB NWE 42 23 54.8 154 3.67 24 2 3 3 49.1 154
14 Joe Flacco, QB BAL 45 24 53.3 223 4.96 27 0 3 1 39.4 112

my point was small samples are meaningless. this post backs up my point. sanchez and leinart are right there with manning, and vick is the best and brady is 2nd from the worst?

he is a 2nd year qb, if he sucked his team wouldn't have gotten to the playoffs both his years in the nfl.

[husker]

Brady had one bad game, flacco is not that good, and his playoffs were hideous over 2 games, not one.

he wasn't asked to do anything in the ne game, and he didn't play well against the colts. the raven rushing game was shut down in the colt game also, does that mean their running game and ray rice suck?

[ravenmaniac]

Cut Flacco some slack. The guy is in his second year and has shit wide receivers like Mark Clayton, and a 35 year old Derek Mason to throw to. Clayton couldn't get open if his grandmother was the DB. Is he Peyton Manning, no but he also doesn't have Reggie Wayne or Dallas Clark to throw to.. Wait until Ozzie Newsome gets him some receivers before passing final judgement on him.

[jcindaville]

he wasn't asked to do anything in the ne game, and he didn't play well against the colts. the raven rushing game was shut down in the colt game also, does that mean their running game and ray rice suck?

no it doesnt mean ray rice sucks, it means flacco does, they made them one dimensional and shut Ray Ray down and dared flacco to beat them, and of course, he cant!!

He isnt that good right now, he might be better with better wide outs, but he has a stud TE and a great running game, I will give him more time before final judgement but HE SUCKED in the playoffs, no arguing about it, he sucked.

[jcindaville]

Big Ben sucked too when he won the Superbowl, dude had an awful game, running game and D got them were they were, same as flacco and the ravens. Big Ben became good, we will see if Flacco can, but right now, I am not impressed with him.

But i wasnt too impressed with big Ben either, now i think he is an elite QB in the NFL.

[dave T]

Dave..if i understand the system it is 30-12...well then it could lose again right...I think the saints/minny game will be the best game to watch if minny shows up and not play like they did against zona and the panthers. That being said both have good def and off so it should be a great game better than the superbowl matchup only my thoughts....both looked awesome last week and the touchdown at the end everyone is so upset about could give minny some fire to play on..cant wait for this game

In my opinion, the game is going to be a beat down.

Vikes 13
Saints 34

gl,
dave

[husker]

one other thing. wayne had 3 catches for 33 yards in 1/2 a game against revis, and had him beat for a long td if manning doesn't over throw him. revis was not a factor in week 16.

wayne got revis a couple times this game also. revis was mostly a non-factor in this game also.

[husker]

this is what i posted in the poll thread.

the colts play well against ryan D's like was stated already. i don't see this turning out any different than the raven game. balt and the jets D is very similar (you don't stop manning by blitzing!), both have to run the ball, and the ravens have a qb with experience. the jets TD's in week 16 came on a kick return and fumble return against the backup QB, until the colts put the 2nd and 3rd team in the game. here is a list of colt that didn't play at all in week 16.

Melvin Bullitt - Starting Strong Safety - Did Not Play
Jerraud Powers - Starting Cornerback - Did Not Play
Clint Session - Starting Linebacker - Did Not Play
Robert Mathis - Starting Defensive End - Did Not Play
Keyunta Dawson - Backup Defensive End - Did Not Play
Charlie Johnson - Starting Left Tackle - Did Not Play
Pierre Garcon - Starting Wide Receiver - Did Not Play
Matt Stover - Kicker - Did Not Play

turnovers and special teams are the only way the jets keep this close. i don't see them getting more than 10 points on offense. if the colts get up 2 td's, and the jets have to start throwing with a rookie qb, it might get real ugly.

i may be a colts fan, but i loved the colts against the jets!