Anyone Watching the David Ortiz Statement and Press Conference?

[savage1]

I don't feel like reading War and Peace right now. I know he used PEDs, I know he lied to my face. I've watched it, and unless you know Ortiz on a personal level and can tell me something I haven't heard, than I don't need to read it.

He used a PED, and he lied to my face. That (IMO) makes him a scumbag.

You want to question that rationality of my own opinion? Go ahead, you won't change a thing. I don't like people who think I'm stupid, lie to my face, and then lie again once caught. So fuck David Ortiz, I don't care whether he plays for the Sox, the Yanks or the Braves.

Kids look up to that motherfucker, and he's a liar and a cheater, keep defending him, you look just as stupid as the people who cheer for him when he hits a HR. You've only posted one thing of any merit so far......

"there is no reason to continue to discuss this."

Mavs-we had a lot of fun on the Statistical Anomaly Forum;it bothers me deeply that imo you are so quick to jump to conclusions.
Post 79=War and Peace?
Be real-it would take you a whole five minutes to read it and consider its value-as I told Molta-be open minded-consider every point and if you think it is a crock of shit and holds no merit, then fine;just be openminded, fair and evaluate what is stated.

[mavskidd02]

Read it, holds ZERO water. By his logic if Justin Morneau left the Twins he would hit 60 HRs a year.

The idea of small ball to big ball does not turn a 10 HR a year guy into a 50 HR a year guy.

You can keep telling people to read that post, it doesn't disprove any of what I've already said.

David Ortiz is a liar and a cheater.
There is no disputing that. And until you can, I don't care what is said.

[molta02]

funny how your article left out Oritz's relationship with his trainer Angel Persinal, the infamous Dominican trainer "who was banned from private areas of every MLB ballpark after an October 2001 incident involving an unmarked gym bag full of steroids"

[savage1]

Read it, holds ZERO water. By his logic if Justin Morneau left the Twins he would hit 60 HRs a year.

The idea of small ball to big ball does not turn a 10 HR a year guy into a 50 HR a year guy.

You can keep telling people to read that post, it doesn't disprove any of what I've already said.

David Ortiz is a liar and a cheater.
There is no disputing that. And until you can, I don't care what is said.

Ok-at least you read it.
If/when/until I hear more testimony about the Ortiz from others in the upcoming days and weeks which make him out to be the liar you say he is, I will withhold final judgment.
You may very well be right.
I was Quality Control Specialist for the Welfare Dept.
I investigated cases randomly selected to determine if they were eligble for benefits and if so, to ensure they were receiving what they were supposed to receive.
This entailed much investigation and many verifications from many sources before calling a case one way or the other.
I mention this only to show you why I deem it important to gather all of the facts before making a determination, in this case in reference to David Ortiz.

[savage1]

funny how your article left out Oritz's relationship with his trainer Angel Persinal, the infamous Dominican trainer "who was banned from private areas of every MLB ballpark after an October 2001 incident involving an unmarked gym bag full of steroids"

Thanks for pointing that out and for reading the article!
ps All I ask is that folks do critical thinking and consider both sides before making a conclusion not just in this matter but in anything in your daily lives-you will be better off because of it.
ps Believe me- my wife points out PLENTY of things to me when I am not being fair about something and/or evaluating it with an open mind.

[Chado1]

Savage's love affair with the Red Sox is kinda creepy IMO...

[savage1]

Savage's love affair with the Red Sox is kinda creepy IMO...

If you read ALL of my posts here carefully and objectively, you would cnclude that this entire matter has NOTHING to do with Ortiz plays for the Red Sox or not.

[savage1]

Did anyone notice that Jim Leyland stated yesterday that he believes what Ortiz stated as the press conference?
Is it just coincidence that guys Like Leyland, Peter Gammons and even myself all have at least a few doubts over the matter, and that we are all either 64 or 65.
Maybe some of you younger guys who are so one sided and vehement and are sushing to judgment about Ortiz's guilt during the entire time he played with the Red Sox should consider that as one gets older, it doesn't automatically equate with senilty, Alzheimers Disease or dementia-many times it equates with WISDOM!

[wayne1218]

I heard Louisville Slugger made a needle with Manny & Papi's name engraved on it!

[kbsooner21]

Did anyone notice that Jim Leyland stated yesterday that he believes what Ortiz stated as the press conference?
Is it just coincidence that guys Like Leyland, Peter Gammons and even myself all have at least a few doubts over the matter, and that we are all either 64 or 65.
Maybe some of you younger guys who are so one sided and vehement and are sushing to judgment about Ortiz's guilt during the entire time he played with the Red Sox should consider that as one gets older, it doesn't automatically equate with senilty, Alzheimers Disease or dementia-many times it equates with WISDOM!

In your case, I'm siding with senility over wisdom.

[savage1]

In your case, I'm siding with senility over wisdom.

Polly want a cracker?

[kbsooner21]

Polly want a cracker?

Hook nose want a dollar?

[vols fan]

Hook nose want a dollar?

How the fuck does this thread still stay alive.He acts like family is #1 yet he argues cats and steroids all day long.SAVAGE,PLEASE GET A LIFE AND GET OVER YOURSELF.WE REALLY DONT CARE ANYMORE

[savage1]

Hook nose want a dollar?

Go visit the Wizard of Oz to get a brain or to at least to learn how to compose ad post more than one one liners.

[vols fan]

Go visit the Wizard of Oz to get a brain or to at least to learn how to compose ad post more than one one liners.

Have a good night Savage!!!! You need help.You are crying out for attention on a gambling chat site for something that has nothing to do with gambling Congrats Savage your the Brett Favre of Bettorschat