Am i the only one who believes Rafael Palmeiro?

[frankb03]

Yea i guess i just have a deep hate for anyone that would rat out there friends. i guess where im from someone that rats out there friends is the worst kind of human being. besides that they have a short life span. however i can see everyones point i let my hate for canseco answer the question for me. so i was kind of off point with my answer.

I wouldn't have a problem if he ratted out his friends and other players for the betterment of the game. He did it for his own personal gain.

[10DimeBry]

Wayne i swear dude i was thinking the exact same thing last night.it was his eyes dude he was real convincing.if he was lying he is very good at it.when mcgwire and sosa had that deal i could tell they were lying but last night he did look like he was telling the truth

come on bro. he sat in front of congress and waived his finger and said quote "i have never used steriods...period"

[10DimeBry]

saying ralphie palmero never knowingly took steriods is like saying i never knowing ate a big mac

[GREEKSTAKINOVER]

I said it earlier in this thread, everything Canseco has said has been on or near the money.

Is he a sellout? Yeah. But, I'm glad he did what he did, it was the first step to exposing these frauds and trying to get baseball clean again.

He ratted out some friends, and to them, he probably is an asshole, but me a a fan, I'm glad he said what he said.

Yea i guess i just have a deep hate for anyone that would rat out there friends. i guess where im from someone that rats out there friends is the worst kind of human being. besides that they have a short life span. however i can see everyones point i let my hate for canseco answer the question for me. so i was kind of off point with my answer.

[mavskidd02]

I believe him i dont believe anything that sell out rat canseco says. to me he is the worst kind of human being there is.

I said it earlier in this thread, everything Canseco has said has been on or near the money.

Is he a sellout? Yeah. But, I'm glad he did what he did, it was the first step to exposing these frauds and trying to get baseball clean again.

He ratted out some friends, and to them, he probably is an asshole, but me a a fan, I'm glad he said what he said.

[kbsooner21]

GREEKSTAKINOVER,

Has Conseco been wrong in anything that he has said?

Until he does, I think you gotta side with him imo.

[BettorsChat]

I believe him i dont believe anything that sell out rat canseco says. to me he is the worst kind of human being there is.

Has Canseco been wrong in anything he's stated? He said A-Rod was taking them too and looked what happened.

[frankb03]

i dont believe anything that sell out rat canseco says.

Why? Some of what he wrote was factual. Besides, Palmeiro tested positive. That's a fact. The remaining question was he aware what he was taking.

[GREEKSTAKINOVER]

I believe him i dont believe anything that sell out rat canseco says. to me he is the worst kind of human being there is.

[frankb03]

I believe Raffy.

Dude was a proffesional hitter and always hit before the steroid era

There was a recent article that the average MLB baseball player starts his decline at the age of 33.

Alex Rodriguez, David Ortiz typify tendency to fall off at age 33 - Joe Posnanski - SI.com

Players during the steroids era have excelled well into their late 30s and even 40s. I can relate with my own personal experience. I played hockey my entire life. I played into my mid-30s. Upon entering my 30s and into my 30s I wasn't the same player I was. I was definitely slower.

[frankb03]

Who knows, professionals in hospitals give wrong medications 100's of times each day and i don't think it is far fetched to think an athlete could have taken something recommended from a friend/teammate thinking/assuming it wasn't a steroid. It has probably happened before, i'm pretty sure of that.

He could be guilty as sin, i don't know. He seemed very convincing to me and like tech fan said, you never felt that with any of the others.

These guys tell the lie for so long I think they start to believe it. I have a few questions. Did he only take one B-12? He takes one B-12 and gets caught? He's the unluckiest guy.

In yesterday's interview he claims he hd nothing to gain. That's total BS. He has everything to gain using PED late in his career. It will prolong his career earning him an addition 10s of millions of dollars.

[kbsooner21]

I believe Raffy.

Dude was a proffesional hitter and always hit before the steroid era

Not for the power numbers he put up late in his career.

[GOLDENGREEK]

I believe Raffy.

Dude was a proffesional hitter and always hit before the steroid era

[tech fan]

I THINK EVERYONE IS MISSING WAYNES POINT HERE.THE POINT IS ITS PROBABLE THAT HE COULD HAVE TAKEN IT AND NOT KNOWN.WE ARE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.YES HIS POSITIVE TEST MAKES HIM GUILTY BUT DID HE KNOWINGLY DO IT NOT SURE.I HAD a FRIEND OF MINE THAT HAD A BAD BACKACHE AT WORK ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO.I HAD A ************ FOR PERCOCET 10'S.I TOLD HIM WHAT IT WAS AND HE TOOK IT.MADE HIS BACK FEEL 100% BETTER BUT NEXT MORNING WE ALL GOT DRUG TESTED AND HE LOST HIS JOB FOR NOT HAVING A PRESICRIP TION.YES I KNOW I BROKE THE LAW NO NEED TO GET INTO THAT BUT I DO NOT THINK THAT MAKES MY BUDDY AN ADDICT.JUST TOOK SOMETHING ILLEGAL FOR HIM

[BettorsChat]

Monte, He probably mentions the list because as of right now, it is the only "True List" that exists. I don't see why that is a big deal.

Well Clemens is not on that 2003 list. So by that Clemens lawsuit against McNamee should not have been thrown out.