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[GOLDENGREEK]

bw, those 2 guys could go to several other teams and be a bench player. To me, that wouldn't happen to a "star" player.

im sorry wayne , i strongly dissagree

i understand some guys have good stats because they play on shit teams but these to guys lead their teams in scorring and assists !!

[GOLDENGREEK]

yes, on teams that had no other scorers. Jr smith would do that on the kings too but i don't consider him a star either.

harris and martin are 5 times better than jr

and trust me i was pissed when the bulls trades jr for nothing

[GOLDENGREEK]

is that a bad thing?

[wayne1218]

im sorry wayne , i strongly dissagree

i understand some guys have good stats because they play on shit teams but these to guys lead their teams in scorring and assists !!

How many all star appearances do they have Greek? Martin has been in the league for 5 full seasons now and not come close. Kevin Durant is a stud and he has already made what 1 or 2? You guys are out of your mind. Let's just call everybody who plays in the NBA a star or stud!

[wayne1218]

There is a big difference in this league between a Star and a scorer. I get the feeling you guys don't get that. Stars carry a team and they make amazing plays to do it. Scorers do just that, they score, they don't change the outcome of games. Durant is doing the Star stuff and Martin is just shooting and scoring. He doesn't and hasn't ever put a team on his back.

[mavskidd02]

BW, Those 2 guys could go to several other teams and be a bench player. To me, that wouldn't happen to a "Star" Player.

This isn't true, Harris and Martin would start on any NBA team.

[wayne1218]

This isn't true, Harris and Martin would start on any NBA team.

We'll do the usual and disagree.

[mavskidd02]

Greek, Maybe you should post the plays for this each night or when it comes up. Seems like every winner is mentioned after the games are over and i'm sure many would like to play along.

I agree. Posting: another winner with "so-and-so" out doesn't help much afterwards.

[wayne1218]

This isn't true, Harris and Martin would start on any NBA team.

You think Harris would start on every team and Martin too? You better think a little harder about that ..........

[mavskidd02]

You think Harris would start on every team and Martin too? You better think a little harder about that ..........

Barring the fact that they Harris had to play behind a Steve Nash or Tony Parker he would start. He would start on more than 20+ teams in the NBA.

As would Martin.

[wayne1218]

Barring the fact that they Harris had to play behind a Steve Nash or Tony Parker he would start. He would start on more than 20+ teams in the NBA.

As would Martin.

So would you. 20+ teams in this league SUCK. That isn't saying much.

150 guys start in this league. So what, does that make them stars? Not in my book.

I never said they were not a top 150 player.

[wayne1218]

I'll stay local since BW mentioned the Celtics too. I would bet anything that Boston wouldn't trade Rondo straight up for Harris. They just signed Rondo to a 5 year 55 million deal and both Ainge and Doc LOVE him. He is a perfect fit for this team and he already has a ring as a starting PG. You guys can think what you want, i bet there is NO WAY they would do it.

[mavskidd02]

So would you. 20+ teams in this league SUCK. That isn't saying much.

150 guys start in this league. So what, does that make them stars? Not in my book.

I never said they were not a top 150 player.

They are both top 30 or 40 players.

[mavskidd02]

So would you.

I ain't that good.

[wayne1218]

They are both top 30 or 40 players.

Has either been to an all star game in 5 years? And they are Stars in this league? Laughable in my book.